#zoneminder

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      • ic0n
        I don't think there is one at present.
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      • Pedulla
        Found it. It's "Monitors". Has to be set to Edit.
      • This is a problem I'll suggest on the forum to change. The idea being that one might want to setup a basic user who's roll is to observer and report. You don't want them to have the ability to edit "screw up" the monitor configuration, but you would like them to be able to force a record of an event they are watching in real time.
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      • jzaw
        rexd666, ta
      • xnxs
        mornin
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      • jzaw
        morny
      • xnxs
        so, i'm redoing the floors in my 'library' and forgot to take before pictures...luckily, zm grabbed pictures of my fat ass tearing up the flooring
      • i'm thinking there should be enough frames grabbed that will be without me to do a nice timelapse...
      • jzaw
        cool
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      • xnxs
        now all i have to do is finish floor prep, put down the moisture barrier, put in the laminate, and reinstall trim and such...yay fun!
      • jzaw
        we too have a library ... real paper ... you know books! nice
      • like they used to have in the 21st Century
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      • xnxs
        yeah....it sucks if you have to move though
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      • dash
        it's normal to have equal parts furniture and books to move, right?
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      • man
        I've increased my sensitivity to the point that it's catching bugs flying in the air... however it seems that frequently zoneminder isn't catching motion while other times it does, so sometimes I"ll see one of my birds jump into the box then out and others on the next motion capture there's magically 3 eggs when there was only 1 2 hours ago and the mtion that triggered it is another bird going into a
      • different box
      • Pedulla
        only in college when you use your books as furniture ;)
      • xnxs
        man: you need to play with your triggers alert thresholds/alarm areas, blob size, etc until you get what you want
      • dash: Pedulla we have 3 walls of books
      • been putting off doing the floors in that room because of the number of books we'd have to move
      • man
        xnxs I've played with those until the point that it triggers an alarm for a spec of dust yet I still get what appears to be a jump ahead where say 5 minutes or 20 minutes is just not there in which there had to be motion because a 5 pound bird doesn't just sneak into the frame
      • in and out*
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      • xnxs
        i'd look into the analysis frames, see what the alarm size/blob size is for a triggered frame, and work off of that...it can sometimes be a pita to get the settings just right
      • man
        appreciate the insite
      • insight even
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      • xnxs
        ha
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      • i still haven't gotten mine all done right...i just deal with the excess false alarms
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      • man
        I don't mind excess false alarms, I'm just watching my chickens at this point anyways, I'm more curious why there's random gaps for example there will be one bird that goes into a box on the top right and another that's considering top left, then it'll load the next for review in gapless play and there'll be 4 eggs in the bottom right and a bird getting into the bottom center box... as if there's 2
      • movements for the first two birds and 2 more birds that were never shown getting up or out of the box
      • though dropping the min px and such last night yielded 124 captures for the day vs 70 the day before
      • most of them involving bird traffic
      • man is now known as run
      • run is now known as gehidore
      • xnxs
        i've been meaning to set up zones to trigger other zones, but haven't gotten to it
      • gehidore
        most I did with the zones was narrow the area it was watching as I don't care if a bird is coming in or out of the coop as much as I do to see which bird was in which box as I've got a dozen new birds that should be laying 3 weeks ago and for some time I had eggs vanishing mid day
      • ironically the camera was setup and they stopped vanishing which makes me think the neighbor might be sneeaking over
      • xnxs
        ha
      • gehidore
        heh in this review I had one bird that was black mottled with white spots suddenly turn into a brown bird with red highlights... then that bird vanishes and there's 4 eggs.. 3 events later
      • I suppose the fact that they can move a decent distance in less than a full frame makes sense for it to miss em
      • xnxs
        sounds like maybe a higher framerate may help?
      • gehidore
        bet these settings would work good though if I was watching say my shop or walkway
      • xnxs
        my neighbor sometimes makes funny faces at my cameras
      • gehidore
        that's awesome
      • xnxs
      • gehidore
        your neighbor seems like humorous people
      • xnxs
        as far as neighbors go he's not too bad
      • had another family on the other side and aside from his kid's noisy friends they were pretty good too
      • gehidore
        is there a quick way to pick a few events and download a file of them so I could upload the 4 events gapless?
      • or do I need to pull them each and combine them with ffmpeg or something entertaining
      • xnxs
        you'd have to make a video yourself with ffmpeg
      • gehidore
        will do
      • Event-1655
      • woops
      • xnxs
        lol
      • gehidore
        oh wow, it was more than 3 events later
      • it's 8 events over a 3 hour window
      • and I thought I had set it to pixels it's still set to percent, so 5% trigger... I thought I was setting it to 5pixels for giggles
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      • xnxs
        i do blobs
      • gehidore
        I'll try that
      • xnxs
        i think i choose the best/sensitivity preset and modify from that
      • gehidore
        huh.. I checked all the events then selected export and when I untar/gunzip it it doesn't produce anything, tar just returns
      • xnxs
        i go through and generate a video and then just download that
      • i dont know if i've even tried exporting a tarball
      • gehidore
        makes sense perhaps it's just returning becasue there's nothing there
      • man networkmanager is such a pig... this little chip keept OOMing on me before and I initially though it was running out of battery or hitting a brownout... stripped out networkmanager and replaced with systemd-networkd and wpa_supplicant directly and it free'd up 250M of ram... sad for a command line version of something so simple
      • xnxs
        what device?
      • jzaw
        [05:14:15] <dash> it's normal to have equal parts furniture and books to move, right?
      • only if you're literate
      • :)
      • xnxs
        lol
      • jzaw
        oh ... soz i did actually mean that in a positive manner
      • hehe
      • i mean... it's a good sign ... cos you're literate
      • gehidore
        xnxs nextthings CHIP
      • jzaw
        gads ... the internet has spoilt me and my behaviour
      • :P
      • the SO asked me [only once] why are you printing out those photos ...
      • cos in 100 years time when your cd/dvd/usbmemstick/ssd is unreadable ... how will anyone know great-great grandpa had a hipster beard and was a cool dude in his time
      • hell ive got dvd's that are about 5 years old and i cant read them any more
      • xnxs
        yeah
      • just gotta keep moving the data around
      • jzaw
        they've got eleventy thousand year old papyrus that's still fully legible
      • gehidore
        they're before my time but I've still got 8 tracks from my suburban I owned a ~6 years ago
      • and they still worked...
      • jzaw
        nice
      • dash
        we need a cult fanatically devoted to data preservation
      • jzaw
        i actually think this is the origin of religions
      • gehidore
        I thought there was one?
      • xnxs
        r/datahoarders
      • jzaw
        tribe survival ... oral traditions (when no writing) important info about survival ... made so important that it was punishable by death etc to go against it
      • dash
        that's called "tradition"
      • jzaw
        like don't lie with an ass
      • dash
        but no, i literally mean a cult of librarians
      • datahoarders is more like a mental-illness support group
      • there are _benefits_ to joining a cult
      • jzaw
        like that library that the vatican has ... that no ordinary person has access to?
      • xnxs
        is it sad that one of the things that i find i love most about zm/video monitoring is i get to see what my neighbors cats are up to?
      • jzaw
        or the NSA/GCHQ ? they're hoarders
      • lol xnxs
      • dash
        xnxs: what plans do you have for the cats
      • jzaw
        we were laughing at our neighbours yesterday
      • xnxs
        nothihng...just like to see what they do
      • dash
        ok
      • jzaw
        cos their cricket ball kept coming over ... and they knew we were pissed off with constantly throwing it back
      • dash
        yes it is sad
      • xnxs
        probably 80% of archived events are cats
      • jzaw
        so the shenanigans with rakes and other sticks to pull the ball to the fence and then over the fence were fun to watch
      • dash
        meanwhile i gotta figure out why my latest chinese piece of shit doesn't want to stream to zm
      • works just fine to vlc
      • jzaw
        which cam?
      • oh
      • it's a dash-cam ?
      • xnxs
        ba dum tsss
      • jzaw
        </boom tish>
      • gehidore
        that's the other one I really need to get done
      • dash