#zoneminder

so I moved the /zm path in apache to / and seem to have broke something

the image when I click on a monitor is broke, I think something's mucked with /cgi-bin

scratch that, it works fine internally just not through cloudflare+proxy

hello

i'm trying to get PTZ on an amcrest IP2M-841E working and I came across this amcrest781.pm module that I want to try. The instructions in the module say to put it in /usr/share/perl5/ZoneMinder/Control and then "in the camera monitor, under the control tab, select "Controllable" ... but I'm having a hard time finding the control tab.

hey guys, is anyone here familiar with Home assistant? I'm see they have a component for ZM, and i'm wondering if there is a way i can tell an IP camera to start and stop streaming using voice and other automation, any pointers?

for example i can have a nursery camera that streams at fixed times, then i also want to be able to say "Alex turn on nursery camera" at say a random naptime

this was a new one for me; zmwatch[2652]: ERR [Unable to run "/usr/bin/zmdc.pl restart zma -m 19", output is "Unable to connect to server"]

running zmdc.pl manually resulted in a mysql error "Too many connections" so increased that from the default and things seem to be ok.

v.1.29

hi can I use zone minder to capture stills from camera, say every 20 sec

not planning to have a continuous video the camera will send the snapshop either through the http get or ftp put to server

barjac, do you know if you can get zoneminder to work with just stills from IP camera

barjac, I dont want to record video, just snapshots

eventHorizon: I don't think that would be a problem as e.g. ZMNinja just pulls individual frames rather than video IIUC, but I'm not a ZM developer - better just ask and wait for someone with more knowledge ;)

barjac, my user case is that I dont need any video recorded, just want regular snapshots captured due a external event , say camera detecting motion and sending a web event to zoneminder

eventHorizon, you can have zm be a monitor (not record anything) and then wget single frames

wget "http://<ip or fqdn of zm box>/zm/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=single&monitor=1&scale=100" -O camera1.jpg

the reason for this, is I dont want any video options available for my wife to view from her mobile and cost me a fortune once she hits her data cap

if you do it via a crond your script can modify the camera jpg name accodringly yyyymmddhhmm for instance

is there a problem of viewing for a short time using zmninja ?

only if she forgets to close the app

but if youre running zm ... you can also run a page where you have a collection of snaps generated on each refresh of the page based on that above wget

i do that here

when the page gets accessed ... snaps are taking as above

and then page is generated and presented with those single snaps

refresh page ... re-snapped

are you referring to zmninja or zoneminder or both

watching the demo of vmninja now. is it displaying live video or just snapshots on each refresh

not having used zoneminder before, I will setup up VM and give it a try

zmninja seems to excellent interface

eventHorizon, something like this

Titler: present single shots of zm monitors - Pastebin.com

yes eventHorizon zmN is rather well done and improves all the time ... the author sits on this channel and responds well to requests and bug reports

ah i though you already had zm running

do you need a beefy machine for zoneminder, can it run on raspberry pi

?

you can be using zm how you like (motion detect ... or record all the time etc ... or dont record) and still have a small webpage that presents single shots as per my paste above

if youre intending to do motion detect ...id say you need more beef

I have a hp microserver as another option

it also depends on things like resolutions and number of cams

if youre just recording 24/7 or use the api to trigger recording (ie you have pir or microwave motion sensors) then a hpms would be ok ... cos in effect youre just recording with the machine

i used to run 11 mjpg-streams into a hpms gen7 N54L with lots of disk space

but i was recording 24/7

but now i have 1080p cams and much higher frame rate and store as mp4 ... so it takes much more processing

eventHorizon, how many cams ?

what kind ?

what is the intended fps?

do you need modect ?

some users here do use RPi ... but it defo wont support many high res cams at high fps at all

I have some kmart special external ones (about 4) and about 5 or six internal, 4 of which have PIR sensors included which I could use to drive external trigger

for security 2-3 fps is often ok 5fps is high

you dont need 25-30 fps for security ... which would take more storage than nsa/gchq have combined

but id have to say your RPi wont be sufficient for that number of cams i think

which gen hpms do you have?

I have been collecting them for about a year, but I am relunctant to crawl through the roof space right now as it is quite hot here now (summer)

ah youre in the southern hemisphere :D

yes, australia

the antipode even ! ... uk here

cold brrr

ranges between 24 C and 31 C this time of year.

I considering wifi but streaming the amount from so many camera;s would be noisy unless I have opted for getting camera;s to send snapshots only

so ... hpms ?

my wife also wants a dog cam, she wants to know if the dog is barking. Is there any audio detection in zoneminder

eventHorizon, no audio as yet

if im not mistaken

jzaw, the camera have noise detection in them so I discovered and there is also this page http://zmtrigger.blogspot.com.au/p/blog-page.html

Titler: External Triggers in ZoneMinder: Initial Development

Hey, that's my page!

don't know how the .au suffix got added...guess that is a google thing

repeating myself whilst people are here!

<ren0v0> hey guys, is anyone here familiar with Home assistant? I'm see they have a component for ZM, and i'm wondering if there is a way i can tell an IP camera to start and stop streaming using voice and other automation, any pointers?

<ren0v0> for example i can have a nursery camera that streams at fixed times, then i also want to be able to say "Alex turn on nursery camera" at say a random naptime

The site renders better (for me anyway) when I go to: http://zmtrigger.blogspot.com/

Titler: External Triggers in ZoneMinder

you know that looks great

will have to have a closer look at it and maybe set up a few triggered cams

ren0v0: gnulnx was looking at that couple days ago

btw for everyone's info i spoke to amazon and apparently the revotech cams have had a firmware update ... so ive reordered them (due any time now) and if they don't crash at night like the last batch

ill report how they go

cool.... you putting those on the wiki? :-)

ren0v0, soz not used any home assistant

knnniggett, yeah i will ... when i tried them last they were good (enough) image quality ... nice wide lens ... but had a major fault in that at night when they switched to IR mode they crashed 10x a night :/

else they were great ... poe 1080p and easily accessible rtsp stream

im hoping it was a firmware issue rather than a h/w one

good thing about buying from amazon is that i can get free delivery and then free return if they dont pass the test

these are the ones ... but ill report back if they are ok

knnniggett, that wifi module on your pages looks similar to what's in the escams

red postage stamp sized thing in the shot

Yep, that's it

I think that is why one can buy them so cheap.... manufacturers buy them in bulk and drive the price down

The WEMO wifi switch uses it too

i wish they'd excluded it from the escam tough .. and made the cam £2 cheaper :P

there's no way i use it for security

heh, yeah no kidding

so im going to have to look at api triggering on motion from pir i think

Yeah, I've never tried the api to do the triggering, but that is worth looking into ....plus you can do it over SSL unlike zmtrigger which does plain text only

Last time I played with the esp8266, there was some bleeding edge stuff which did HTTPS, but you had to hard code the site's ssl cert into your program