i just did some detective work with wireshark ... there was a new item on thelan asking who has 192.168.1.1 and tell 192.168.1.136
IT'S THE CAM THAT WAS BROKEN!!!
the darn label with the MAC and default admin pass etc
says default ip is 192.168.1.128 !!!
but they hardcode a default of 136?!
not sure how it reset itself to that but im in the gui now
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Bhaal
jzaw: Oh nice
good thing you didn't completely break it!
jzaw
and ive been soldering and desoldering stuff too !
lol
it's working
zm sees the stream
all fix
hmm funny how it got itself reset for no reason at all
and to some bizarre ip not its default
well not very bizarre but not correct
apart from that
these are distinctly very easy cams to setup
the webui works in ANY browser
and the streams are easy (no passes required)
and on that happy note ... im off to bed nn
Bhaal
haha night mate
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golserma__
Can we make some sort of opt in survey what cameras are in use?
digdilem
via zm? it doesn't know
only when presets are used, but they're never going to support all cams
golserma__
We could just ask the user what camera he is using
And maybe scrape the webinterface?
digdilem
so many varieties, literally thousands
what's the benefit, ooi?
golserma__
We could create something like a most used toplist and add some amazon affiliate links
digdilem
eww, no thanks!
golserma__
I still think there is a need of recommended hardware
digdilem, you don't like the list of most used hardware or the affialiate part?
digdilem
I'm not a fan of monetizing zm in any form.
if you were going down that route, you could market manufacturers to have a "Works with ZM" to get recommended hardware, but it should never be at the expense of any other hardware
which, i think would be inevitable if you got paid for such a scheme, to focus on easier integration for premium hardware
golserma__
I don't think manufacturers care about zoneminder
digdilem
maybe not
golserma__
How about zoneminder rebranded hardware?
digdilem
as above, provided it wasn't prioritised over anything else. (just my personal view)
golserma__
I'm considering buying 4-5 cameras at the moment and I must say it is very confusing to find hardware that is going to work great
There isn't a decent list of working devices
digdilem
yes. that's something that ONVIF is trying to address
golserma__
We could collect some money/hardware and maybe donate hardware to some developers?
If the hardware is in use we know it is going to work great?
Or maybe just ask some hardware sellers if they are interested in providing some hardware fore review=
digdilem
that's probably something the core dev team should discuss. (I'm not, I only have a vague role in support)
jzaw
golserma__, im with digdilem re monetisation of zm ... it's open and agnositc and should remain so imho
though there is a wiki where you can add camera details of cams you have had success with which is entirely different
i should add a page to that re the escam qd900wifi (good experiences easy ... vvvv easy ... to config and use with zm) and the revotech I539p (has fantastic potential a lovely image at night time but relies on CMS and windows for any config and crashes 2-6 x an hour at night so may it die and burn in hell for all eternity [unless they improve something in a MAAAAAJOR WAY] )
digdilem, is there a way to check if i already have an account for editing / adding to the zm wiki ?
i lose track of which sites and how i was registered to them
if i dont use them for a long while
ah jzaw is already in use
so that must be me
(though there are a few jzaw in the world ... mostly in hk or china)
password recovery?
The email/username information submitted could not be found.
finally recovered only to find
Login error
You are not a member of the required phpBB group.
golserma__
jzaw, 2MP is a bit low isn't it?
jzaw, do you have a sample video of a qd900wifi daylight recording?
jzaw
it's 1080p
remember STORAGE
something 2x the resolution will require 4x the storage for the same fps
i use 5fps ... will pull an mp4 as it's stored here ... brb
jzaw, sounds like this camera has a lot of "smart" software running on it? don't know if thats a good idea
jzaw
most of my cams are outside bar 3 usb ones (actually two usb are outside too for the last 3 years with no detriment as they are under cover)
i only have 1 ip cam inside
yeah i dont like that cams have p2p upnp etc etc all turned on
the revotechs defo *phone home* all the time ... my ip cams are isolated by vlan and firewalling
with the escams i can telnet in as root
and edit the startup scripts so things like p2p dont start up
golserma__
jzaw, did you try to kill the phone phome softwre?
jzaw
not found the root pass for the revotechs yet
yes for the escams i did kill those rc
golserma__
ok now i'm interested. VLAN + some bloatware removal sounds like killer to me
Did you try the version without wlan too?
jzaw
firewalled in a *proper* router mind not some general cpe
oh i kill the wlan on the escams
the problem is that 1080p model only comes WITH wifi
the non wifi one is 720p
but i only ever use them wired
their main asset is that they are fully configurable from ANY browser
no windows no special s/w required no activex
digdilem
jzaw, wiki, dunno - maybe try a lost password with your email address?
jzaw
they arent the fastest at a a max of 15fps at 1080p ... but that's ok since i only need/want 5fps
digdilem
oh, you said that after
jzaw
digdilem, i recovered my pass for the forum
golserma__
jzaw, you added thernet to the cam?
jzaw
but but it doesnt work for the wiki ... and it wont let me register as it says jzaw already exists
golserma__, added ?
telnet is already there
digdilem
cool. I have some mod level access for the forum, but not for the wiki
golserma__
jzaw, ah the cam has wifi+ethernet
jzaw
and prob like most cams WIDE OPEN ifyou know the password
golserma__
So you removed the module from the kernel?
jzaw
yes wifi and ethernet but i only use ethernet
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na i just edited the startup script ... not to
golserma__
OK, guess I'm buying one or two to test
jzaw
digdilem, i was going to do my bit for the community and add info about two cams and also ubuntu xenial 16.04 (and building debs)
golserma__, they dont have poe built in
which is a shame
id rather they had poe than wifi
DO NOT GET ANY REVOTECH CAM ... awful things ... great great images especially at night ... but at night they crash every 20-60mins
they auto reboot ok ... but it's not good
digdilem
definitely useful info to add to the wiki, if you can!
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jzaw
golserma__, if you can ip66 waterproof a poe splitter or at least extend its leads so that it can be hidden somewhere safe the tp-plink 10P splitter works well with a lot of kit and is the right price
£10 ish
digdilem, yeah id like to ... just as soon as we can prod someone to give me access ?
same again re the tp-link splitter ... useful little thing for not a lot of money
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piano shiny black ... if that's important
hehe
golserma, here are two stills side by side from almost identical vantage points
digdilem
jzaw, perhaps create jzaw2, or post on the forum asking for access? (Not sure who has admin access for wiki)
jzaw
one is escam (slightly narrower view) and one is revotech (slightly wider view) both 1080p not neccessarily fully tuned for contrast / brightness/ sharpness/saturation but give you an idea of the resolution