#zoneminder

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      • attilahooper
        posted my rtp error on the forum. debig here: http://pastebin.com/dfcZme3H
      • Bodkin
        Titler: ZM 1.28.0 master ERR-zm_rtp_ctrl.cpp/155 - Pastebin.com
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      • fixxxermet
        oh man, this is exciting
      • making progress
      • attilahooper
        go man go
      • !
      • hey, would a wireshark log of rtsp be helpful resolving that error i got ?
      • fixxxermet
        Sorry attilahooper, I haven't been working on rtsp at all. A wireshark log couldn't hurt though
      • attilahooper
        i understand, I posted on the forum, just wanna provide complete data if'n when someone looks at it
      • fixxxermet
        Did you post on github?
      • knnniggett
        For the case of rtsp, enabling a debug level of 5 provides the same (more actually) information than a wireshark session.
      • attilahooper
        not yet
      • knnniggett
        which you di already
      • attilahooper
        posted on zm forum. i had debug 9 but only on zmc i think
      • knnniggett
        Your camera is sending a packet type of 101, which according to the following link is not defined: http://www.iana.org/assignments/rtp-parameters/...
      • Bodkin
        Titler: Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Parameters
      • knnniggett
        So Zoenminder understandably stops
      • attilahooper
        yeah, zm chucks it it appears
      • knnniggett
        This seems to be the typical experience - Most cameras don't seem to follow the standards exactly
      • So the big the question is what to do about it
      • This is difficult because you don't want to break other cameras just to fix some camera that isn't following the standard
      • attilahooper
        gotcha - wouldnt be surprised the edimax is sending out some bogus packets
      • one way is not to use rtsp - it's been an expiremnt for me as this is first rtsp cam - been mjpeg for a lll my old legacy ip cams
      • wanted to dip my foot in the rtsp waters, as I project to deploy a bunch of poe and other IP cams.
      • knnniggett
        If you can build zm from source, you could try and change this line from an Error to a Debug: https://github.com/ZoneMinder/ZoneMinder/blob/m...
      • attilahooper
        yes, i saw that line.
      • knnniggett
        Then let us know if it made things better or not
      • Since we are venturing outside the established standards, I don't know of any other way than to just try it and see
      • If you have not tried already, the ffmpeg and libvlc source types should wotk with your camera as well
      • attilahooper
        oh thx - i'll try those
      • jimmy51v_
        my cameras tend to start lagging behind in zoneminder. the camera itself isn't (when accessed directly) but when accessed via ZM console they drift back as far as half an hour over the course of a day.
      • is this an artifact of not enough processing power?
      • knnniggett
        Are the Max FPS and Alarm Max FPS fields empty for the camera in question?
      • fixxxermet
        success!
      • knnniggett
        looks good
      • fixxxermet
        The new 'events' view is the second screen shot there
      • It is a modal window - not a 'popup'
      • This UI is fast, too.. Much faster than classic
      • attilahooper
        cool beans
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      • jimmy51v_
        knnniggett: sorry... wer eyou asking me about max FPS?
      • knnniggett
        yes
      • jimmy51v_
        i don't believe I've set them
      • fixxxermet
        Later all
      • knnniggett
        later fixxxermet
      • attilahooper
        cheers
      • knnniggett
        jimmy51v_ placing values into those fields will causes lag and frame skipping so you should be sure.
      • jimmy51v_
        ok
      • i'll double check that. i had my cameras at the default 30fps. i played with them to set as 5 fps but then i got no feed at all and have switched back.
      • those were all camera settings though... nothing in zoneminder that i remember.
      • oh... does zoneminder host CPU power affect recording quality?
      • i've had terrible quality off and on where the motion of me walking accross the room shows a partial 'ghost' like blur where you can tell there is motion but sure can't tell it's a person. the RSTP feed is way clearer.
      • knnniggett
        that means you are dropping frames
      • your system cannot keep up
      • jimmy51v_
        ok
      • it's an atom 330 from years ago
      • i guess i'll have to drop some cash and upgrade.
      • attilahooper
        my old zm/webserver is running on a mac mini - rev 2 i think with atom - it really cant run much more than a single cam at 5-15fps imo
      • jimmy51v_
        what's better... clock speed or core count for ZM?
      • attilahooper
        so now i'm looing at running it inside a vm on my i7 debian ws
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      • jimmy51v_
        is a single, gigabit NIC enough for up to 4 cameras?
      • (sorry... 1 x Intel PRO1000 GB NIC on the zoneminder host)
      • attilahooper
        depends on frame rate and size
      • i've thrown several cams at an older gige adapter and it was fine
      • at 320x240 though
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      • usually 5fps
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      • jimmy51v_
        this would be 720P. currently at 30fps but people on here said 5-8 is just fine for security
      • i'll try it
      • attilahooper
        yes, i recall the conversation. 5 fps is plenty
      • jimmy51v_
        i have two options for the board using CPU's i have in my drawer
      • i7-860 or e5-2600
      • attilahooper
        should be able to thrown many cams at either one i think
      • jimmy51v_
        *e5-2630
      • ok
      • attilahooper
        i'm playing around with rtsp stream on an edimax and it looks like the network load is 1/4 of jpeg stream
      • but this edi keeps throwing a bad rtsp packet and soiling the log w errs
      • jimmy51v_
        sounds more efficient then. i'm doing rtsp
      • soh
      • doh
      • attilahooper
        doh!
      • jimmy51v_
        how about an i3-530? dual core 2.93 ghz
      • attilahooper
        heh. my daughter is hooked on simpsons now
      • jimmy51v_
        man that show is addicting. i didn't watch a single episode until in college a roomate watched it. i studied while watching it. probably one of the few people getting smarter while watching the simpsons :)
      • attilahooper
        i dont know my cpu's without consulting cpubench
      • jimmy51v_
      • Bodkin
        Titler: ARK | Intel® Coreā„¢ i3-530 Processor (4M Cache, 2.93 GHz)
      • attilahooper
      • it looks competent enough
      • jimmy51v_
        i have a drawer of useless stuff here to cobble something together with. 1) an E5-2630 and motherboard. 2) an i7-860 but no motherboard with graphics built in, 3) an i3-530 with matching motherboard and RAM
      • cheapest option to build around would be i3-530 but it's the weakest.
      • think it would work with 4 cameras at 720P?
      • attilahooper
        i couldnt honelty say yay or nay
      • honestly
      • jimmy51v_
        ok
      • i'll go with cheap first. that matches me :)
      • attilahooper
        you could make it work if you compromised frame rate etc
      • i had a handful of cams running on an old mac mini
      • 320x240 5 fps, and it worked
      • zm 1.24 or 1.25
      • it would get honkingly slow every now and the, cause I have an internet faced webserver on it too :) lolz
      • every now and then it would lock up, dunno if I was getting dos'ed or sql attacks. now I have pfsense with filters and it doesnt need reboot - but only one cam left
      • jimmy51v_
        ok. i got the stuff to build the i3-530 based system and will give it a go. thanks for the tips
      • attilahooper
        did a little network test - streaming 1280x1024 15fps rtsp from my edimax i saw 300KB/s with little motion and 525KB/s with a lot of movement - direct stream to ffmpeg - no zoneminder
      • plenty of bandwidth in a gigE adapter for mucho cams iimo
      • good luck have fun
      • jimmy51v_
        thanks!
      • it should be fun
      • building to building bridge to finish
      • cameras to mount
      • beefy ZM host to move to (from atom)