#wine-staging

aphirst: i wanted to take a look at the freelancer bug later. Is it possible to reproduce it using the demo?

DarkPlayer, good question, no idea

DarkPlayer, I can try to install the Demo later if that'd be useful

DarkPlayer, do you know a trustworthy source for the demo?

i downloaded it from a german site which should be trustworthy: http://dl.4players.de/f1/freelancer/freelancer_...

ok I'll see how that goes

if it's reproducible for me then I'll note that in the report and again here

though one can get to the ability to display the HUD within about 5 minutes of gameplay

stupid copyright law

i'd rather just, er, "lend" someone my copy

ok, demo installing

as a side point the game is really unstable if you alt-tab out of it

but i'm not sure whether it's worth reporting that

as my experience is that lots of games are unstable like that in wine

playing the game intro now...

i kind of wish i hadn't installed this game now, rip my free time

DarkPlayer, yep, demo does it too

okay good to know, so I can test it later

also a specific set of fixme commands get spammed to the console when i run it

i'll post those along with that info in the bug report now

done

I might try to generate a brief logfile of just loading the game and opening the NavMap, with WINEDEBUG=all set

anyway yeah, i'll see what someone else says

DarkPlayer, if you want to test it by having a save file at the point just after the intro cutscene, you might need winetricks msxml4 to be able to save

should I see if the Rise of Nations bug can be duplicated with a trial version, if one exists?

would be good and don't forget to add the download url

Could there be a potential legal issue with me sharing a download URL?

not for a demo version, they are supposed be distributed

+to

aphirst: I already added it to the URL field ;-)

hah

ok

well better to have it twice than not at all

oh man, wine is slow if you enable all the WINEDEBUG stuff

which WINEDEBUG channels did you enable?

all obviously, which was probably dumb

all is not recommend and is actually never used

mm

way way too verbose

usually, you would enable "+relay" which logs all function call, but it does not work for COM based stuff like direct3d

which would probably be what's malfunctioning

+d3d9 (or whatever d3d version the game uses) would be more appropriate in this case

i think it's d3d9

well i ran it with that WINEDEBUG and i didn't -see- anything new or different at the time of clicking the navmap icon

is anyone here who would be willing to test if http://speedtest.net/ loads in built-in iexplore? I'm not interested in network benchmarking just 'd like to know if the links (About, Settings, Advertise) on that page work for you?

or iexplore crashes when clicking on any of those links

mogorva: crashes in get_frame_by_name

mogorva: crashes here too

slackner, DarkPlayer, yep, thanks for testing :)

the crash is present since 1.7.32, but reverting the commit that I found to be the offending one doesn't resolve the problem

does speedof.me work?

ie probably has no html5, does it?

alright, time to go home

DarkPlayer, did you get chance yet to test freelancer on your end?

no hurry like, just curious

aphirst, what was your problem with Freelancer?

04Bug 494: minor, ---, ---, bugs, UNCONFIRMED , Freelancer: Background Texture for in-game "NavMap" spreads across entire screen

aphirst, this is how the map looks like here (demo version, virtual desktop mode): http://imgur.com/LZ6vEMJ

mogorva: nvidia?

DarkPlayer, yep, with nouveau

mogorva: staging?

yes it is

csmt enabled

mogorva, huh, that's not what i see

mogorva, virtual desktop or no

hmm, could be intel related

the same with upstream wine

that would be the guess

hmm

might be related to Z-buffer fix which made it into wine recently

i have another machine with intel graphics to test on

though it's not set up and stuff

not sure when i'll have time to set it up

don't have any non-intel hardware

the range for the z-buffer was hardcoded for nvidia and didn't match the intel range

this could explain the problem

the game is most probably lazy and doesn't clip the texture but instead uses the stencil tests ;-)

z-buffer is the thing that has to do with things being layered on top of each other right?

i will test it on my intel laptop later

i think i remember this vocabulary from some other context

yes

alright well at least i can understand

aphirst, did you try reducing detail level/disabling effects in the performance menu?

mogorva, no, actually, i'll fiddle

i have it set to max

mine is set to max too

yeah quality settings don't seem to have any effect

So, if it is the zbuffer

what would the plan of action be

aphirst: wait until DarkPlayer has tested the app, if you have luck its already fixed in wine git

it looks good to me in 1.6.2 and 1.7.45 as well

mm

silly intel :P

mogorva: it could be intel specific, there were recent commits by stefand to improve compatibility

k

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i can reproduce the problem with 1.7.48 on intel

DarkPlayer2, are you the sequel to DarkPlayer? :3

aphirst: obviously I can not use the same nick easily from multiple computers

i know

i was making a joke