#wine-staging

austin_laptop: to make silverlight better compatible with wine we were planning to implement some poorly documented DRM feature

austin_laptop: so about one year ago, when we started working on pipelight, we askes the SFC for help

austin_laptop: (please note that the DRM feature has to be implemented in wine of course, so it was not at all pipelight-specific)

austin_laptop: nevertheless, we were waiting for almost a year without any useful response, and then about a couple of months ago we received an email, that they came to the conclusion that this is a pipelight problem, and they only support the wine project - and "unfortunately" cannot help us

austin_laptop: the main problem with this DRM system is that it uses asymetric cryptographic algorithms (like RSA), which need a private key to work properly

unfortunately without legal advice this is basically a wontfix, technically it should be no problem to solve that issue

slackner, gotcha, thanks for the info

slackner, I can see why they were hesitant, though they've been pretty helpful for wine in general

but that's getting into more gray territory..

puk and I are on the wine committee, fwiw, but I don't think we can do much to help here

slackner, have you tried the EFF?

austin_laptop: no we haven't talked with them yet

but we talked to the FSFE

if you read their legal pages it seems like they are mostly interested in cases in which someone is already getting sued

makes sense

austin_laptop: the FSFE recommended us to either stop or contact the EFF

but they do not see much hope

well, i would have hoped that at least the SFC is experienced with things like that

but i guess we won't get an answer from them, when they are not even able to understand the problem :P ^^

austin_laptop: getting an answer takes bloody ages and therefore we are not so much convinced to continue ;-)

yeah, one year just to figure out that they don't want to help us .. how long would it take till a final answer? ;)

till then the DRM system is not used anymore ^^

the graphic driver vendors could solve this problem without legal problems

how so?

austin_laptop: the DRM system provides specific functions, which allow to established a "secured" connection to the graphic card to query / set the status

on windows all these functions are simply relayed to the graphic driver through some IOCTLs

if they would provide the same commands in their Linux driver, we could simply forward the API calls

ahh

DarkPlayer, are y'all planning to contact the EFF?

as i said earlier, it would be good if we could implement a correct solution instead of writing our own implementation which needs a correct key

even if we would contact the EFF and they say it is okay to publish the implementation, it is still highly unlikely that we can distribute such a key

austin_laptop: do the patches help for the bug at least?

slackner, yes