#tlsnotary-chat

waxwing: is there anyway to transfer the TLSNotary proof onto the paper medium

my intuition says it cannot be easily done

proslogion: just a min

https://www.censys.io absolutely wonderful tool

proslogion: sorry, your earlier question. not sure what's going on. paper?

i mean in principle of course, it's data, but are you asking if it can be condensed?

well, at a minimum the receiver should have a way of verifying its authenticity, or it's pointless

yeah i guess it cannot be done

but paper proofs are used really widely IRL

proslogion: ? the proof is self-validating up to trust in the pagesiger cert and the original server cert.

oh, but you mean, one can't verify a digital sig on paper, is that it?

right

well, shrug, that's a general problem with digital signatures right, not a problem with tlsnotary

yes

the 2000s called, they want their QR codes back :)

i'm imagining someone going all Ladar Levision and handing over a pagesigner proof to the cops in 8 point font

hmmm, i wonder what's with Turkey

maybe just coincidence

yeah, interesting.

some kind of bitcoiner guy though by the sig

proslogion: you run Armory still?

or did you ever, i seem to remember

btw i sent a pruned blockchain to dansmith_btc today (second try, messed it up first time). kind of interesting experiment to see how easy it is to transfer a pruned chain to someone else.

yes i do

or rather i sit it

ok. see the chatter today?

in the sense that i started it once several months or so

heh

well, looks like they plan to go closed-source

that's the reason for the silence

yeah sure, they are developing for enterprise

'enterprise' sorry pretentious buzzword

not really in the sense that you need a team of people maintaining it

i guess one can make the argument that hardware wallets are superceding their approach

well, maybe, but hardware wallets can stop functioning

also you don't need to upgrade a paper

right. i don't trust them.

well, let's say i don't trust them enough.

waxwing: IMO, they would have an acceptable enterprise solution, if they give whoever pays for the product and signs a NDA the full source code

sheesh http://www.coindesk.com/russian-minister-confir...

>Russians

>care about what laws the government enacts

proslogion: yeah probably that's how it will go (NDAs etc.)