#tlsnotary-chat

feel free to upboat or downboat as you see fit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2wzehq...

:)

any probs with what i wrote, let me know

i was tempted to mention arbiter.co, but then i got un-tempted :)

waxwing: i still haven't found out the details of the auditing

do you know the specifics

well i saw the email. i don't know any more than that

waxwing: i meant the bitbargain thing

no, i haven't queried further. would seem rude

afaik it was just: delay, seller asks for money, he audits, is satisfied, sends coins back

i guess if buyer doesn't protest, that's the end of it. likely scammer.

waxwing: errr....

i have a different version here

buyer didn't press his bank enough, when his bank said the money should be there

then after the auditing, buyer increases the pressure, and turns out it's the bank's fault

my greatest worry is what if they had used tlsnotary the wrong way, and it all amounts to nothing

unlikely though ,bb-martino knows what he is doing

this is the twitter age. 'tlsnotary used to resolve dispute' is the press release, don't delve into the details :)

yes, he seems highly competent, agree

waxwing: omg what have you drunk you sound totally different :)

?

waxwing: in any case i will just get with the twitter age program :)

well the only serious point behind my joke is that we can't delve into the details, it's a private matter. but if he's happy with it, that's probably good enough

waxwing: arbiter.co frontpage seems to be withdrawn

that looks like a good news, as someone seems to be maintaining it

one thing i realised today is that, one way or another, this thing has to be packaged into the browser. it's just, i don't know how to do it, or if i do, it's way too much work.

waxwing: let's see which comes first: you get employed to work on tlsnotary or i find VC money :)

waxwing: nah you tone is too conservative

interesting, it's redirecting to bitcoin.arbiter.co

let me do an elevator pitch down there

and not resolving

lol ouch https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322328....

i start to see the brilliance of python, this is only 579 lines https://github.com/rxcomm/pyaxo/blob/master/pya...

on a brief scan,not sure that would be so different in another language. python does have some nice libraries, true.

waxwing: my very superifical understanding can only point to the simplified definition of classes :)

oh oh laptop taxiing to runway again ... testnet rescanning

waxwing: u can haz 9 upvotes

oakpacific: :)

and no comments right.

tlsnotary echo chamber :)

"banking API's like finxera, plaid.io, Currencycloud, COREFX, fidorOS, Standard Treasury etc. aloThat side of fintech is on fire right now. There's got to be at least a dozen internet-only banking startups who have goals to open up their API completely. "

hmm yeah good link. that guy is certainly not short of ideas :)

waxwing: well, ptodd talks no BS :)

waxwing: on second thought, i think he got it wronf

yeah agree with your response, basically

and sorry i forgot proof of solvency :) even if it's a bit limited/unlikely, should have put that one.

oakpacific: btw did you know Ian Grigg is the originator of the "Ricardian contract" idea?

I also heard he was helping with some aspect of openbazaar, which is really interesting

waxwing: i saw him mentioning it, but forgot if he was the originator

waxwing: huh

yeah he's like an idol to a lot of these guys, e.g. fellowtraveler and so on

hmmm...okay

people worship other people for no apparent reason cough Andreas cough*

;)

actually i don't think Grigg is a bitcoin fan at all, interestingly

waxwing: well, there is really no speculation needed for this part

for speculation i would go as far as saying he is actually envious of Bitcoin's success

oakpacific: ah. so that means you know something.

because i got the exact same impression when i heard an interview with him about a year ago.

waxwing: well, notihng other than reading between the lines of his blogposts

oh right. where is his blog again?

financial something something?

waxwing: yes

got it

heh, he has a bad cert

that's interesting. sec_error_unknown_issuer

hmm where can i find the actual cert? naughty FF

wtf? issued to www2.futureware.at ?

what are the algos

they look quite strange

wow, what an awful argument he makes in this post: http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/00...

oakpacific: dunno but just on the tiny chance he's been hacked, i'm not going to accept that :)

waxwing: am i seeing it right that there is no encryption

only signing

seeing where? are you looking at the certificate?

a cipher suite is only negotiated after you establish the connection :)

oh sorry

but he uses rsa2048+sha512

a unique combination

though makes sense

you mean, after you accepted it?

or you mean for the signing

yes

the latter

yeah well that part isn't so interesting, but what is he doing with the wrong domain name in his cert..?

i guess it can happen, no biggie

waxwing: so maybe he sees TLSNotary as a chance to turn the tides and decided to jump on the bandwagon :)

in what way?

btw this post I really liked: http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/00...

waxwing: nah, just musing with the idea that he may registered the domain, after you told me about his involvement with openbazaar

i just heard an offhand comment from brian hoffman. it might be just that he gave some advice.

after seeing the first of the above two posts, one can hardly imagine he supports the project.

either that or i totally misunderstood it :)

so the arbiters are up online again

looks more like a server problem

so yeah, it looks more like Satoshi is a crypto hobbyist, than a pro

though, deep down i somehow suspect he faked it, for no reason

so no, he is more like a pro

^F "staggeringly complex" :)

waxwing: ywah, saw it quite some time ago