#taskwarrior

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      • Jestre
        Aha... Thank you I added a wait:some_date to the first hoping it would recompute that... but I will try this
      • pbeckingham
        Jestre: Right, that's a current limitation, you have to apply it to each. One day we will support that.
      • Jestre
        Good to know. Thanks for that info
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      • bqf
        Unode: so it's threaded code written by people in academia trying to hit a paper deadline? yeah, good luck with that. :)
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      • Unode
        bqf: something like that I guess :)
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      • tbabej-test
        Shamelessly misusing #taskwarrior for a test of waartaa.com
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      • Unode
        tbabej-test: I almost kicked you there.
      • tbabej-test: your cloak seems to match.
      • tbabej
        Unode: match what?
      • Unode
        that address you pasted
      • tbabej
        you suspected me of being a spam bot?
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      • Unode
        tbabej: the colored nick system used by this client made it dark blue, so kinda hard to read. I was already preparing to kick it until I saw you in disguise.
      • tbabej
        Unode: seems I need to brush up some IRC lingo
      • Unode
        you mean kick?
      • tbabej
        Unode: so, talking about cloaks, we speak about this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
      • Unode
        your's (tbabej@gateway/shell/waartaa/x-adyxmqepsvuwwrvw)
      • tbabej
        Unode: nope, kick is actually pretty clear :)
      • Unode: you mean the one of tbabej-test
      • Unode
        yes
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      • tbabej
        Unode: alright. And why exactly is it a problem when the part of the cloak string is typed into the channel?
      • Unode
        tbabej: I don't think there is a problem. It's always announced when you join or leave a channel.
      • and when you use /whois
      • tbabej
        Unode: Alright. So where did the impluse to kick 'tbabej-test' out came from?
      • Unode
        the spam-like message
      • and the fact you can always use #miscrandomchannel
      • tbabej
        Unode: and the cloak actually persuaded you NOT to kick me out, once you recognized 'tbabej' substring
      • Unode
        that and TAB completion on the nick.
      • tbabej
        Unode: yeah.. but people here were interested in web-based IRC solutions
      • Unode
        this client has smart completion, nicks that spoke recently are completed first.
      • tbabej: I'm not sure I know what you are talking about. (I didn't visit the address you linked)
      • (common spam response) :)
      • tbabej
        Unode: it's an open source IRC client (as a service)
      • Unode
        mibbit like?
      • tbabej
        Unode: maybe (I don't really have much experience in this area, but seems like it from quick glance). This one is HTML5 + js and has some higher goals I guess.
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      • Unode
        I've used mibbit in the past. It's ok if you are behind firewalls. For prolongued use it's kinda limiting but I guess with the right API, it can be turned to any sort of client (i.e. man-in-the-middle ;)
      • tbabej
        Unode: there's also this http://demo.shout-irc.com/
      • nevertheless, back to work
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      • pbecking1
        This one's for Unode...
      • Unode
        I'm here
      • task-git
        *** Taskwarrior - commit 8e8b2f9 in "2.4.5", Paul Beckingham: Tests: Added color to the C++ tests
      • Unode
        :D
      • I only see green on those :)
      • pbecking1: btw, something happened to cygwin?
      • pbecking1
        Unode: Yes. The VM hung, and Fredde is on vacation.
      • Unode
        ah ok
      • I'm guessing he didn't take the "restart everything" switch with him.
      • pbecking1
        oh wait, he's online...
      • Unode
        (we did get a reply some minutes ago. A very short one)
      • pbecking1
        Indeed: The efficiency cannot be faulted.
      • bqf
        yeah, i felt bad following it up with that wall of text...
      • Unode
        bqf: I wasn't sure if all your comments were legit or not. With that intro you kinda provoked a "is bqf bqfing ?" reaction.
      • bqf
        Unode: no, it's super cereal.
      • (seriosuly though, i mean what i wrote there. not being negative for negativity's sake.)
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      • Unode
        bqf: well I don't really see a way out... Given that problems exist and some are due to ambiguity (i.e. not enough context information to make the right call), I see only 2 ways out: Adding the context info (markup) or dropping some of the functionality.
      • In my opinion, the second option would be more disruptive...
      • I still agree with you on making it easier for users. <-- is one . But you'd need to learn it anyways...
      • You do have an extra point for "The first impression". And there may be some wtf moments. But I'd say they already exist.
      • (and I'll shut up as me agreeing twice is a bad omen)
      • bqf
        Unode: there's a third option - taking context into account, trying to parse a certain way, then backtracking if it doesn't work out. hard to get right, but leads to simpler syntax.
      • and it's not just about keeing "WTFs per minute" down, it's also about typing less. if i have to type even 5 extra characters just to change something, i might end up not doing it. yes, it's lazy. but why should i have to type more if what i want to do can be inferred?
      • Unode
        bqf: I think that's what pbecking1 tried and didn't work. There's cases where you may simply end up doing the wrong thing. And fixing it means doing the wrong thing elsewhere.
      • bqf
        anyway, off to bed. it's finally colder outside than inside, so i can open all windows and hope for the best.
      • Unode
        see ya, I'm also off for the day
      • we'll catch up when pbecking1 shows us a perfectly clear example of ambiguity and kills the discussion ;)
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      • pbecking1
        Unode: I have no perfectly clear examples of anything. All I have is a chart of blood pressure vs. Parser completeness.
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