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Hi

Does anyone know if using Stripe Connect, I would still need to pay the 2.9% + 30cents per credit card transaction?

Hi iRent. Are you a platform or a customer?

platform

In that case, yes. The 2.9% + 30 cents is the same fee -- though you can charge a platform fee to your connected accounts on top of that.

So, I would have to pay the $2 + 0.25% per account. Also, my customers when they use their credit card pay more 2.9% + 30 cents?

If so, I don't understand the Connect fees. Why would I use connect?

give me a sec iRent.

iRent: can you tell us a bit about your use case, how you intend to use Connect?

The Android SDK is saving cards as sources not as cards, how come?

because that's the default but it supports both

like are you using `SourceParams.createCardParams` in your code?

I am using the Github SDK https://github.com/stripe/stripe-android

I cannot find SourceParams.createCardParams

how are you creating your card then? What is your code doing exactly?

Sorry yes I have

I was looking in the wrong foldes

so you need to not use Source if you don't want a Source.

@koopajah: Okay thank you, but you do not have any insight into how the Android SDK is constructed?

I'm not familiar with Android development but that should not matter. The issue is that you explicitly create a Source and so that creates a Source. It's documented here: https://stripe.com/docs/mobile/android/sources If you want a Card and not a Source just don't use this and follow our normal docs: https://stripe.com/docs/mobile/android/standard

@koopajah: Okay, thank you!

Was is the difference between card vs source? Why would you prefer one over the other?

Card is the old way. Source is the new way. The latter lets you have one integration/approach no matter the type of payment methods. So someone can pay via Card, via ACH, via iDeal, etc. but ultimately everything is a Source. If you only accept cards then Card is fine/easier at first

Can you retrieve the card country if it is a source?

yes they work the same way/have the same features

Alright!

Thank you for the help :)

sure! sorry for the vague answers. Mobile dev is not my forte :(

No worries, I am quite new to it as well so maybe I am just overcomplicating simple stuff! :)

I see that Stripe offers ACH. Is it possible to set this option per invoice, so that US students would pay via ACH and European students would pay via credit card?

stripe657 : sure. You collect the details you want per customer so for a European customer you'd have them enter card details and a US student would enter ACH data.

ok I'm a bit confudes about sources and cards

bostonmacosx : they are completely separate objects. You either use one or the other.

koopajah: ok but I just put in $cu->source = $request->input("stripeToken")["id"]; and it saved it as a card

koopajah: the input is the tripe token

yep which is entirely expected. You create a card token, you get a Card back.

ok...is there a default card?

if you want a Source you would just never use tokens at all. You'd use Sources, even client-side.

so how do I choose the default car then...

card as well

Hey Koopajah thanks. So the credit card and ACH options will be available on Checkout form?

I don't understand your question I'm sorry. What do you mean "choose the default card"

stripe657 : no they will not. Checkout only supports cards and bitcoin not ACH. For ACH you would build your own payment form

Can I attach a newly created bank account source object to a customer?

jnarowski : https://stripe.com/docs/sources/customers#attac...

so if I have two or three cards in the account how do I pick the one which should be the one used for a subscription payment

Gotcha. So Stripe's native payment forms (Checkout, Elements) don't have ACH option, I would have to create my own ACH integration

after i create a bank account, it doesn't appear to return the source?

any ID that is returned, I can't find later

using this: Stripe::Source.retrieve(

using this: Stripe::Source.retrieve

bostonmacosx : okay so you can not. Subs always always charge the default source/card/payment method, nothing else.

im using stripejs

stripe.createToken('bank_account', bankAccountData)

koopajah: so how do I choose the default card then

and with the resp, I can't attach it to a customer

koopajah: my original question

stripe657 : so not your own integration. Just your own HTML payment form. Something like this: http://jsfiddle.net/av8qu602/

got it! Thank you for the help

bostonmacosx : well there are multiple ways and it really depends what you mean by that. I guess if a customer has 3 cards nad you want card_B to be the default you use https://stripe.com/docs/api#update_customer and set `$customer->default_source = "card_B"; $customer->save();`

jnarowski : which bank account are you referencing exactly? Are you using SEPA debit?

I get a response with a token: { id: 'btokxxxxx', bank_account: { id: 'ba_xxxxx' } }

none of those are sources though

customer.sources.create(source: xxxxx)

then I'm trying to attach the source this way. How do I get the source ID associated with the newly created bank account

okay so you're right none of those are sources and you would just never use sources. You are likely using ACH which goes through 1/ create a bank account token btok_XXXX 2/ save the bank account on the customer customer.sources.create(source: btok_XXXX)

the last step returns a bank account object, not a Source. and it has a unique id ba_XXXX

I get this error Stripe::InvalidRequestError (No such token: btok_xxxxx)

customer.sources.create(source: btok_xxxxx)

cool that's a separate issue. It means you try to charge a token on account A with its Secret API key but really you created that token on Account B with its publishable key. Triple check your keys and it will work

using stripe.js do I use secret key or publishable key?

on the front end with stripe.js I am using publishable key, on the backend I am using secret key

both for test data

the issue is just that the keys you use are wrong. Or at least one of them is wrong.

is there a way to show a list of sources

so I can see where these are getting added?

the is not, but you're saying "Sources" but you are not using Sources. You're creating ACH bank accounts. And right now you're creating a token in one account and try to use it on another account which will not work

they are the same account

no, you think they are but they are not, per the error

if you give me the token id and the request id I can prove it to you. IF you take the time to look at the logs in the dashboard you would immediately see that you either create just tokens or create just customers but not both

haha you are right

touche

ay

so no polish support, rite?

any alts?

desperek : unfortunately we mostly speak English here

koopajah, okay, let me rephrase. Do you perhaps know any alternatives to stripe/or when stripe will be avaible for Polish based developers?

desperek : we don't share timeline on new countries unfortunately. I don't know of an alternative at the moment

I'm curious if all keys in the subscriptions.create path are defineable?

I want to pass in current_period_start and current_period_end

no those are not. What's a valid parameter is documented under https://stripe.com/docs/api#create_subscription

what about start?

it's not in https://stripe.com/docs/api#create_subscription so it's not a valid parameter. Any parameter that is in https://stripe.com/docs/api#create_subscription is valid. Any parameter that isn't there is not valid.

okay. then I'm assuming trial_period_days can be different for every customer? so I could set trial_period_days to current_period_end - Date.now()?

is there any way to show the account number after the bank account is created

or the last 4 or something?

so the user knows which account they added?

oh nevermind i see the last 4

David_ : no, you would use `trial_end` if you pass a timestamp

Hello. I try to use sources but i have an error message : 'The type `sepa_debit` is not a valid source type.

why ? Any Help ?

that means you don't have access to SEPA. You need to talk to our support team: https://support.stripe.com/email

@koopajah oh didn't see that one- even better! so I could just set trial_end = current_period_end (which is unix timestamp)

yes

perfect!

What do you mean by "you don't access to SEPA" ?

have*

Archichaud : I mean that SEPA debit is in private beta and you don't have access yet and would need to get access

Ok ! Thank you !