#stripe

yes, kind of

original subscription may look like : Module A : 3 users X $ 10 + Module B: 2 users X $15 + Module C : 1 user X $ 20 = Total $80

stripe : none of that is supported by default by the API. The only way right now is to build your own logic with a $0 plan

and after 1 month i may change it to A: 5X10 + B: 1X15 + C: 2X20 = 105

ok

there's a short write-up about this here: https://support.stripe.com/questions/metered-su...

ok .. let me review that

Hi everybody

I would like to know if I can create e user subscription with different prices between the first payment and subsequent

Can you help me?

David__ : just use a coupon to discount the first payment?

but if first payment is 250€ and next is 100 per month?

ha okay then you want invoice items instead

Hello, I have a not so technical question, but I am sure you'll know the answer. Can I use stripe for Mail Order Telephone Order (MOTO)?

Thank you koopajah but I don't understand how I can associate different plan to a user dynamically

David__ : there's no "different plan" here. If you follow my explanation it's always the same plan with an invoice item first

Troedler : https://support.stripe.com/questions/phone-orders

thx @koopajah

My customers when subscribes any of the available plans, they may use or not the coupons. So, what I want is to store the actual amount they paid while subscribing. How do I get it? Customer create API don't send the Net amount got deducted I saw in the doc.

back with one more question. Is somebody aware if there is an "official" payment module for integrating stripe in Opencart 2?

arup_r: that amount would be on the invoice object

arup_r: you can retrieve a list of invoices for a particular customer. when you create the customer (with a subscription), there will be exactly one invoice in that list. stripe.com/docs/api#list_invoices

checking

Troedler: stripe doesn't provide such a module - I don't know if opencart has an endorsed one

though they're open source, so it seems unlikely that they would choose to "bless" a particular solution

Opencart has several integrated payment gateways integrated, but not stripe. I just checked and there are some third party estensions, so i have to evaluate those if they can do the trick.

* - integrated

Can you recommend stripe for the "german-speaking-market"? In need of a fully german checkout aswell as a german backend?

tr12: thank you!

Troedler: this is more dependant on what opencart provides than what stripe provides, as far as customer-facing UI

alright, thank you

the dashboard isn't localized for german, but that's not customer facing anyhow

ok, english wouldn't be a problem for me, but to be honest, I think you would gain loads of plus points (and international customers) for providing a localized dashboard (in german, french, italian.... these guys often speak bad english). :D

it's a matter of priority :)

yes of course. And long term company strategy.

anyhow, thanks for your answers

hey if every user on my app is the owner of a managed account, should their cards be added to a customer object on the main platform or as an external account on their managed account?

dev1209412: do you want to charge these cards, or make transfers to them?

Hi @kkopan are you there?

it could be both

also is it possible to transfer money to credit cards on stripe?

dev1209412: then you'd want to have the card on both a customer on the platform, and as the external_account on their managed account

David__ : I guess you meant me?

dev1209412: stripe can transfer money to bank accounts (ie: direct deposit) or to US-based, non-prepaid, USD debit cards

hmm okay, what are the differences between the two?

dev1209412: customers are charged, and managed accounts have the funds from charges paid to them

dev1209412: customers only ever pay money, and managed accounts only ever receive money

dev1209412: if in your application, you've got a person that needs to do both, you'd need both a customer and a managed account for them

Okay perfect, makes total sense now. Thanks for clearing it up so quick!

dev1209412: np!

David__ ?

Sorry Koopajah, Can you help me with subscription. I don't understand because we have different customer and different amount on a plan. Example customer 1 need to pay first rate 100€ and next rate are 50€; customer2 need to pay 250€ first rate and 100€ next rate

we don't have a standard amount

David__ : well it's not something that can just work out of the box. You need some custom code here. Since the amount charged is different for each customer, just use a $0 plan and then each month add an invoice item for the correct amount to each invoice

ok but I need to create this via code every month correctly I can't do it via stripe API

David__ : well no you don't need to do this. You will write some code that does this for you each month automatically. You listen to the `invoice.created` event on your webhook endpoint and each month you get one, look in your database and decide how much you will charge that customer this month.

ok, can I create a single payment and create a plan for a customer that start on next month?

David__: so the first month costs extra, and then all the other months cost the same?

for example yes, if you follow the instructions I outline in my SO answer or tr12's link about metered billing

Yes first month costs extra and all other month are the same

David__: there's a link here on how to make a setup fee: https://support.stripe.com/questions/subscripti...

yep, that's basically what my SO answer (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29226876/add...) covers too.

#koopajah thank you, but in your link example I need to create all payment via code every month. I don't understand If I can create a one time invoice item for the first payment associated with plan

you'd have to create the invoice item each month

with tr12 example I understand that I can charge an amount for customer for the first time and next rate are automatically paid by stripe

David__: correct - I think that's the simplest thing to do here, if all you need is for the first month to cost more

Hey guys, is there a way to release a charge authorization?

alessandro1997: refund the auth

Oh, great. Should I pass anything in particular to the API call or is a regular refund call enough?

just the regular refund charge api

Thanks ;)

I'll try this. Can I try it on test account? If I use day recurrency for plan I can see this on account? what do you think?

David__: testing it is a great idea

ok. thank you everybody

David__: yw!

I'm really digging Stripe

but is there a recipe or best practices for handling the tokenId passed back by Checkout? In regards to security, etc... is there a preferred way of handing the tokenId back to your server from the browser?

I guess I'm curious about the server side - how to lock that down to prevent tampering or clients from passing erroneous/invalid tokenId's in an attempt to break something

confused: re: security, you'd want to make that request over an https connection

sure - and I'm going to have the js client simply hit a WebAPI (.Net) end point

server-side you just need error handling to catch any errors stripe would give for a bad token

ok - and maybe some client throttling if they send too many bad tokens

I suppose, seems like an odd way to attack a server

confused: the bigger concern is lots of real tokens with bad cards, more so that tokens that don't exist

somebody could plausibly DoS your server by sending tons of broken requests, but this is not a property unique to bits of your code that interact with stripe