#stripe

markin: coupons were definitely the way to go, thanks again

Hello I need a working stripe module for oscommerce

The official module on oscommerce does not work

Do you actually care if your service is usable?

medworks: is it actually coded by the stripe guys or is it oscommerce code? Looks like it's maintained by oscommerce, not stripe, at first glance?

(also kind of surprised that osc is still going!)

yes, there is an oscommerce module created by some guy named Harald Ponce de Leon

and it does not work

But I would have imagined that stripe.com might want, oh, I don't know, business

Unless they don't like money

they provide a functional API, which anyone can integrate with

that's their business model, more or less

Anyone includes me. So I guess not

I have an oscommerce shopping cart

It produces an order total, and I want to charge that amount

I mean, the reality is that stripe has finite resources, which doesn't really permit going out and writing an integration with each and every ecommerce software

I want to replace authorize.net and my merchant account which suck and suck me dry

there are a bunch of stripe integrations that do work, but these are all maintained (more or less) by whoever these integrations are with

well, then you can use some of the money you save to pay for an integration to be written, or support from osc to fix/debug their integration, and then you save money after that's paid off

I haven't saved any money

your beef is with osc for having a broken integration

no, but that's your intent

that's why you want to switch

I'm not the only one who uses oscommerce, I would think stripe.com would want more business instead of less

Instead of sitting there and being hostile and being like "you need to break into my vault to do business with me"

"okay, in the next year I'll save $300 by switching to stripe, so as I plan to be in business for at least another year I can afford to pay $300 to have this fixed and be no worse off at the end of the year"

to use an extreme example, if I told stripe that I'd use them if they wrote my integration for me, they'd (politely) tell me to take a hike

well, you can also put in the work to switch to another ecommerce system that's a little less 1999

it's clearly not economical to invest a bunch of resources in writing an integration just for me, even though this does get them strictly more business

there are plenty of systems that do work with stripe

Once they have it written, they can put it on their website, and then ANYONE who has oscommerce can use it

right?

Why wouldn't they want that

they'd want that if it were free

but it's not

Instead they want me to pay 300 dollars to solve something that has probably been solved hundreds of times already

it costs a bunch of engineering effort, and ongoing maintenance to write an integration

they're not insisting you pay anything, if you don't have 300 bucks but your time is free, you can learn to fix the problem or invest your time switching to an ecommerce platform with better community support

this is just not the business stripe is in

stripe provides the infrastructure

not the "last mile" as it were

stripe is an infrastructure service, not a software vendor

you chose a software vendor that happens to have a faulty integration

Just like an airline that insists all its customers individually build their own airplanes

not really, no

to use your analogy, if I go flying with southwest, and the entertainment system is broken, I don't complain to boeing

A broken sound system won't prevent me from getting to my destination

This will

the correct analogy there is that stripe is an airline ticketing system and you pay a travel agent or expedia to interface with their system for you to sell you a ticket

look - I think we're going around in circles here

stripe is not, and has never been, in the business of writing integrations like the one you're talking about

Ok well my question to you is, who are you. Are you associated with stripe or are you just observing?

long story short you need to talk to oscommerce and get them to fix their integration, or switch to another ecommerce platform if you need stripe

I interned for stripe, but I'm here on my own time

They won't, I posted in the forums months ago and they don't reply

observer/customer of stripe who uses a 3rd party integration that is slightly faulty and which he is taking up with the person who wrote the integration, not complaining that stripe should fix my problem

so this suggests that osc is unmaintained

which means it's a timebomb waiting to go off anyway

Maybe. But lots of people have oscommerce shopping cart systems

better you plan to change ecommerce software now because one day it'll happen anyway when it stops working with the new PHP version your host switches you over to, or when it gets a security vuln that doesn't get patched

It would be untenable to try to overhaul my whole website and replace it with something else

yeah but one day that might end up out of your control

and then you'll have to choose between paying someone to fix your oscommerce in a rush or switching ecommerce platform in a rush

as a result of wanting to use stripe you've discovered that the project is apparently unmaintained and so can plan to make a migration in an orderly fashion and get stripe as a reward at the end of it

That's true but it's also still true that I really don't know how to do that

It's a bunch of php code, isn't that kind of ubiquitous though?

without having much context on what shape oscommerce is in, you generally don't want to be stuck on a platform on a downward trend

I just want something that takes the order total and charges the card

So you're saying I should get out of oscommerce even if it may be painful

woocommerce and magento both seem to have import tools, people talking about it, and there will be people who you can pay to do it no doubt too

it's a commercial decision

I don't know that - I don't have enough state to tell you what the right course of action is here

if oscommerce isn't being actively maintained it's a red flag

you have to balance the risk an unmaintained platform presents to you

PhilB-: it's worth distinguishing between the stripe module for osc being unmaintained vs the whole thing being unmaintained

against the cost and benefits of moving to something newer

well, true, but osc seems to be at 2.3.4 and I'm sure that was out years ago

but if it is the case that nobody's maintaining osc anymore, that's not a situation that's going to end well

Wait, you've heard of oscommerce

Or did you just research it now

if osc is in fact still being maintained, then maybe pay someone in the project to fix your module

it's usually possible to pay for things to be fixed

at the end of the day, though, you can either not migrate to stripe, migrate to something that does have a working stripe integration, or patch / pay somebody to patch the osc stripe module

probably won't cost as much as $300 if most of the integration is already there

medworks: my ex used to build oscommerce sites waaaaaaaaaaay back, like 5/6 years ago

actually, probably 7 or 8

hey so

undefined method `sources' for #<Stripe::Account:0x007f8282fcaf38>, how if I run call sources on the Managed Account stripe object

Well then it can't be that arcane

how am I supposed to create a bank account on a stripe managed account?

dpg_: for an account object, you'd want `account.external_accounts`

dang. ok

thanks.

(or account.external_account="tok_***", if you're setting it)

medworks: looks like someone's maintaining oscommerce-respsonsive at least, so you just need to find someone in the project, or an external contractor, to fix oscommerce'/your integration for you

now I see the tab for "Account"

sneaky didn't see that design element before

Well on this page http://forums.oscommerce.com/topic/382611-suppo... it has a link to their module made by one Harald Ponce De Leon who doesn't respond to messages

medworks: looks like commercia; support is available from oscommerce

medworks: https://www.oscommerce.com/Support

One of the forum posts was by one psxgunman who said that he converted the zencart version to oscommerce

So this stuff exists somewhere

you can probably just pay osc some money to fix your issue

Hi

I created a connected account using stripe api

if you've previously donated to the osc project, maybe you can use that as leverage

but when trying to activate it i get a message

You cannot activate a test-only account. In order to activate, make sure your account is created under livemode