#stripe

not putting them in a script

was passing them inline

markin: I've made a mess out of my stripe test area, is there some way to flush all of it at once via the dashboard or preferably via an API call?

then again since thats not working maybe I will relent and put them in mashrc

daniello: Account settings -> Data -> Delete Test Data

Blackamoor: the idea is you don't want to put them in a file that you check into version control

markin: Thank you!

ok

well I'll set them in bashrc and see if that helps

how do I relad bashrc without logging out?

I forgot

source /etc/bashrc

run ~/.bashrc ? :)

When a user cancels an account in my app but has an active subscription. Should I make them handle the subscription first then allow the cancelation or just dynamically do it. Their subscription dictates the state of possibly 100's of users. So if the leader wants to cancel the account how should I handle that?

okay source is probably a good idea

thanks markin

This subscriber registers with the app then applies for a subscription and invites friends to use under his/ her account

keithbrown: generally, you want to make it explicit what is going to happen as the result of cancelling the account

keithbrown: you could make the user cancel the subscription as a separate operation, or just be really clear that cancelling the account will also cancel the subscription (and therefore interrupt the service of the people they've invited)

Yeah. I have a ton of messages and popups. But I would like to know what is typically done in this situation.

Ok

question: would you consider it a good practice to run the stripe charge as a separate job outside the http request (for example sidekiq in rails), to ensure the http request won't time out and to avoid blocking other requests?

this would imply polling purchase status on the client side

soundis: does the result of the http request depend on the result of the charge?

right

polling is generally pretty gross

yes, I'd like to avoid it if possible

Another question is ther a practice for pinging subscription status during logon. (Node) something that just returns true or false and not the whole response?

soundis: I wouldn't do that unless you're actively running into worker contention

did the specs specify maximum duration of a stripe charge?

keithbrown: no, you'd get the whole subscription, and then just not inspect most of the response

soundis: there isn't a hard upper limit specified, iirc

hmmh, would be cool if you could define it yourself

soundis: well, you can, in a sense

our old backend coder said something about 80 seconds, if I recall

soundis: most http clients allow you to specify a request timeout

the issue is that stripe is going to continue processing the request even after you terminate the TCP connection

hello

soundis: so you'd want to use idempotent request keys so you can get the status of the request at some later date

Peter___: hello

Can i use strip to sell travel ?

soundis: I'm not sure where the 80s number is coming from

tr12: so are you saying I'd just let stripe do its job and query stripe later to see if everything succeeded?

Hello Can I use stripe if My company is Selling Flights?

Peter___: the prohibited business list lists "travel reservation services and clubs; airlines; cruises; timeshares;"

Peter___: iirc, plane tickets in particular are considered to have very high chargeback risk, so it's pretty unlikely stripe would be able to support htat

*that

soundis: to be clear, I'm not recommending this, but it's something you could do in theory

I know people who are tour operators and they use strip

stripe

thanks <tr 12>

tr12: so the recommendation is to just process it in one request until possible problems arise?

Peter___: for a solid answer, you should contact support directly

Peter___: support.stripe.com/email

Thank you <tr12>

will do so

soundis: well, part of the problem you're running into here is that rails doesn't handle lots of concurrent requests well

Have a good day statefarm is there

yes, the processes eat lots of memory so we can't have a huge amount...

soundis: you can configure rails to run in multithreaded mode, but I've heard bad things about eventmachine

soundis: also, it's sort of unclear how running them in an async worker solves the fundamental issue of "running lots of concurrent requests is going to hurt"

soundis: you're going to get exactly the same issue where you start to have contention for workers

tr12: The point with the worker is that the unicorn processes won't get blocked, or time out

soundis: and the queue starts backing up - the only difference is that this doesn't cause delays in serving all requests, just whatever work is being performed by the async workers

I get that

tr12: thanks

soundis: workers are going to be appropriate for long-running background jobs where the connection is likely to time out on the request

that's not really the issue here

it's the volume of requests that you're worried about, no?

tr12: could be you're right. as far as I understand sidekiq also runs processes so there's the same problem with memory there

pushing those requests into a queue is not going to make the request volume go away, it's just going to move the problem elsewhere

it seems to me spinning up a bunch of workers is ~equivalent to just spinning up more unicorn workers (possibly on more machines)

and the latter solution is simpler anyhow

yes, definitely

tr12: thanks for the good advice :)

soundis: any time!

Hey

pixelpop: hello

I know Stripe only pays out Bitcoin in USD. Is it possible to just send the USD to a Canadian bank account and for me to pay the currency conversion fee?

pixelpop: no, unfortunately, you need a US based bank account denorminated in USD

If I set up a US bank account with my bank in Canada and then just transfer it over.. That would work right?

yes, but it would need to be based in the US

you can set up a USD-denominated account in canada, but that's not going to work

Okay thanks :)

one of the major banks (scotiabank I think) partners with an american bank, so that may be useful

So i am using wp and woo commerce I have all my store items listed as points currency. using stripe is there a way to add make the sales go though in canadian dollars

madmaty: what do you mean by points currency?

some sort of in-store credit?

well my store is listed with a "made up currecny" it equals out to about 1 point = 2.9 CDN in my database the price is listed at 1 though

madmaty: I suspect the answer is going to have more to do with woocommerce than stripe

you may want to consult their documentation or support

ok i will shoot them a request for an anwser

If I've got a Canadian bank on my Stripe account and I accept cc with that, what will happen to the BTC? Can I get it to just send it to my wallet?

attempting to create the bitcoin charge should error iirc

pixelpop: stripe always converts the BTC to USD, but if you just want to accept BTC, you don't need stripe to do that

hello stripe

I have a complicated question

stripe597: sure whats the question>

is it possible for a managed account to register a connect application?