#stripe

Have two subscriptions. The first is for $74, other is $24.99. After the user is charged $74, I need to change their subscription to the $24.99 one for the following months. What happens when I do that? Will any part of the $74 payment be refunded?

Will be doing this via the API.

so is the $74 like a set up fee?

it's for the first full quarter of service.

then, after 4 months, they fall back to $24.99/month.

the way I would handle that is a one time charge of $74 and then put their $24.99 subscription as like 4 month trial

normally when you switch plans Stripe will prorate it and apply the discount to future bills (though you can set it to not prorate), but the one time charge and the trial seems like the more proper way to do it anyways

that would result in them being billed $24.99 each month?

the 4 month trial thing, I mean.

they don't get billed during the trial. so they'd be billed $74 that you create as a one off charge, and then 4 months later after the trial they get billed $24.99 a month

gotcha, that'll work. Appreciate the help markin.

you're welcome

Any cool ideas on how to market commence.io ?

Hi there. I need to test that if the card is invalid - then the subscription of a user will be cancelled. Is there any way to set the subscription period to something like 1 hour?

"card is invalid" means there is no funds on it, so I can use any of test cards for Stripe

the shortest a subscription can be is 1 day. you can set your retry schedule in your account settings. that tells stripe to retry the card for 1, 2 or 3 days over the course of some days and then to cancel the subscription if all attempts fail

okay

but I can't modify the existing plan?

you cannot modify an existing plan, you can change the plan a subscription is on

aha, nice, can I update it on dashboard?

you should be able to

I see, awesome

so I can create a plan with 1-day billing period - and Stripe will try to charge next day

yea

cool, thanks!

Quick question... is the 'token' only used to create a customer? or are there other times that a token would be needed?

you can also just charge the token, you can also create bank account tokens for creating recipients

OK, let me clarify... in my application when someone decides to make a purchase when they submit the payment through the checkout, I create the customer, set up the subscription which initiates the first payment, save the strip ID to the DB in the members record for use in the future if they want to change their subscription... and to use for xref when

subscription payments come in so I can update the correct records...

throughout those processes, is there anything that I need to use a token for?

nope, a tokens are single use, so once you add it to the customer thats it use

and once I have the customerID from stripe, everything else that occurs is based on that, right?

unless the customer gets cancelled.

unless the customer gets deleted

OK, deleted... thanks.

so markin what is the story behind the commence.io?

and what does the io stand for?

Well I'm a Stanford student so I was looking for freelance gigs, and all the big sites are terrible, because competing with people bidding $200 to make an iphone app is crazy, so I wanted to build a site that had good projects as well as quality people to work on them. So a bit of a curated freelancing site.

the .io is techinically indian ocean, but its pretty common for silicon valley type companies

so, not to sound dumb or anything, but what should an iphone app cost as opposed to $200 I have no clue

it would really depend on the app, but if you figure 40 hours minimum to get a /decent/ basic app that'd be like $5 an hour

which is what some people on sites like elance are offering

I'm currently working on an app that I quoted at 10k for

Howdy ... I'm getting a stripe could not load error as the response on the /charge page when using checkout ... could this be because I'm not yet setup for https? I figured it didn't matter when testing.

cmhavoc: thats not an https error, whats the full error message?

Sorry, there was a problem loading Checkout.<br>

If this persists, please try a different browser.

what does your code for checkout look like?

paste it in a gist / pastebin

since irc will get mad if you try to just paste it in here

Well, you are apparently good at what you do markin, and people pay for quality. If I had the funds, you would probably be doing what I'm doing right now, and I'd be paying you, because I'd venture to guess you could get it done in about 10% of the time that I will have invested in it... Just have alot more time than money at the moment.

Showman13: thanks :) yea, people are willing to pay, finding those people on a massive site like elance is hard, which is hopefully where commence comes in

cmhavoc: where did you get that code?

cmhavoc: you created a charge.html and you pasted that in there?

using FF to look at the response from checkout.stripe.com ... maybe not an error

I was hoping to see the token in the response

just using the checkout to get a token

cmhavoc: you should have some code in your own html that looks like <script src="https://checkout.stripe.com/checkout.j.... no?

shit! nevermind .... found it

clicked on the wrong thing ... ha!

brb, apple decided to disable gestures, need to restart

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