#selenium

Hmph! How come a String isn't Readable?

yep. I literally just copied that code, ran it on a rubygems page. And got something back already Plus tbh, the data is more important than the image.

If the data says say 1% diff. We wouldn't care. If it said like 25% diff then we care.

simonstewart: there is a StringReader

I know :)

But Readable and Reader are two different things

And it'd be nice if String implemented Readable.

Oh well

not all strings are readable

ave, simonstewart!

When is a string not readable?

Ave, barancev-sl!

when its full of NULs?

when you can’t read it :)

or other weird characters

im not sure how that means anything if there is just a StringReader that takes a string and reads it though

barancev-sl: it can't be filled with nulls. The underlying field in the Oracle JRE is an array of chars

maybe its just when a string is null it isnt readable?

but then an array of chars can be null too

String implements a bunch of interfaces. Whether a variable is null or not won't change that....

actually, it’s just a bad design decision, maybe dictated by legacy

barancev-sl: that feels more reasonable to me :)

StringReader is Readable

Indeed

Was hoping to avoid having to create one. Oh well.

Hello. I am using Cucumber, Watir, and Selenium

I have a test to click a link and I expect there to be no response, how can I write a test like this?

I have a statement that says

when I navigate to the home page, then I wait for the "X" element to be present, when I click the "X" element....

then I'm not sure how to follow that up

Alstr: you expect clicking the link to do absolutely nothing?

yes

sounds like a useful link!

Alstr: can you go and ask your web devs why they've put a non functional link on the page?

What if a user clicks it

Then they click it some more

its non functional on desktop

Then theyre frustrated it doesnt work

but functional on mobile

And leave your site

what

*facedesk*

its a phone number link

the business requested that it does nothing when viewing on desktop

go tell your devs to hide it on desktop then? and make it a span with the number instead?

so make it a <span>0777777777777</span> instead of a link

Thanks for the advice, but in this case the work is done and I need to make a regression test

changing it just creates more work

*boggle*

not saying its a good solution

some of the other devs here are frustrated with the decision as well

how much work could it be to change one goddamn link and put a class on it or something and hide/show with css

-_-

Alstr: Im not sure there's much -to- test here. I mean when you click it on mobile, it will be an OS-specific dialog that pops up to call

Be zen, WhereIsMySpoon

Testing for something _not_ to happen can be tricky

Is there some marker that the link does nothing on desktop?

does the link have an attribute on mobile it doesnt on desktop?

but then again that isnt an e2e test

Question: what is now approximately 1 million degrees and on my lap?

that should be a js unit test

simonstewart: the sun

Answer: this laptop I've just rebooted

close enough

But I'll take "the sun" as being about right

:D

ohai, simonstewart!

G'day jimevans!

How're you?

so i asked this as a general question the other day, but i wanted to run it by you. what do you think about getting a legit ssl cert for the test web server started up for running selenium tests?

simonstewart: i'm better, thanks.

jimevans: how would we stop people abusing the cert?

no idea. i don't even know if it's practical.

And how would people run historical tests?

Once the cert expires

I think it's a great idea. I don't think it's practical

What we _could_ do is have a proper site somewhere which never changes (or only has pages added) with a valid cert

And probe for Net connectivity before running tests that use it

given that some driver implementations don't support self-signed certs (at all), it would be nice to be able to test some things that require ssl certs (like secure cookie tests)

See above :)

(I guess you were typing at the same time as me)

hah! likely so.

(I'm in an odd mood today)

(Not bad, just odd)

i spent the long weekend auditing the .NET test suite for selenium.

it's now up to date with the java test suite.

Nicely done, sir

jimevans: nice!

top-level pass/fail numbers can be found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VQoB5sQ...

i'm working on a better way to present that information

the github docs pages seem to have https anyway

help! i can access a button and do button.click() but it seems to have no effect...any ideas why?

(When I click button w/ mouse OUTSIDE of Selenium it works..but the .click() seems to have no effect in Selenium...Why is that?)

i did proper waiting too

what is worse...i don't get an error...selenium just silently passes

theseb: all browsers? just one browser? what else have you tried?

^ this and also its possible the element you're clicking isnt the one you want to, perhaps your selector isnt unique or maybe the html is misleading and the click event is on a lower/higher level element

theseb, this is typically means you are sending `.click` to the wrong element

with javascript the click handler could be anywhere

jimevans: i'm on FF..i printed button.text to confirm i was on right button..there are 3 and this is only one with right text

ok..assuming i should be sending click to somewhere else..how find that out?

if you are lucky, you may find the event listner tab helpful in the browser tools

if you try to .click() the element in the browser console, does it work?

document.querySelectorAll("<your-selector-here>")[0].click()

https://imgur.com/a/qSRSxvo <--- screenshot !

that doesnt help very much

ok sorry

WhereIsMySpoon: how do .click in Firefox console? is that what you meant?

yes, try and run .click() on the elemnt in the console

theseb: how do I get to the page you're on?

right click on the element you are locating, and choose `Use in Console` which should add `temp0` into the console for you change that to temp0.click()

ive temporarily signed up to buffer

WhereIsMySpoon: buffer.com

sure, then what after ive signed up

WhereIsMySpoon: let me see...sec

you're on /app/profile/lotsofnumbers/buffer/queue/list

not sure how to get to app/profile/lotsofnumbers

WhereIsMySpoon: you add a social media account then select it to add content to it