#selenium

it's fine. i'll use that hack.

Was that at the f2f?

titusfortner-sl: yea

titusfortner-sl: but... its simple...

Lol

so simple

Trivial even

almost as simple as tax reform

or health care!

american health care, i mean

definitely as simple as health care

Or everything else trump talked about in his stump speeches?

http://pasteall.org/373911 problem solved for now. no waiting for a spec to be updated

or a new api completely

humanBird: what if an element is covering it?

not for my particular use case

i'll fix it when I get there.

ok... I have more edge cases as you solve these issues

that's one of several reasons why there isn't a general API for it

lucast: <3

titusfortner-sl: https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href...

dude-x: <3

i'm sure i can add something for z index

i thought there used to be a sample half-broken algorithm for displayedness in the spec appendix

the tragedy is that browsers already do visibility just by being browsers

jimboslice-sl :thumbs up:

with the new "browsers define their own webdriver api" it's sad this was left out

they could've handled real visibility

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Lol

what's so funny? it's not like elements display on the desktopwindow when scrolled out of view. browsers aren't that disfunctional

dysfunctional

humanBird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTa1KI6fQpg

It's like this is only half of a conversation

@automatedtester have you seen 13 Reasons Why

lucast-sl: nope

The expanse is fun

the behavior is already implemented in the browser already

What are the 13 reasons why?

People

otherwise the user would be seeing things they shouldn't like elements on the background desktop window, seeing occluded elements through z index etc

humanBird: watch that youtube video

oh, clearly needed to read more of the conversation

titusfortner-sl: I enjoyed the Expanse, my wife hated it

Books are great

its from books?

is there a transcript from that video?

Yeah there are six or seven

The series of books is nominated for a Hugo award

This year

Levitation wakes is the first one

humanBird: tl;dr; browsers have no fucking idea what they are painting to the screen

does the operating system though.

no

It's a TV show. Some think its dark but I'm enjoying it so far

I enjoyed 13 reasons

guess it's almost time for selenium to absorb sikuli or opencv

the OS knows what's rendered but doesn't know anything about the DOM

also, put "knows" in quotation marks

it has a display list

it doesnt optimise the display list

it kinda hopes the GPU/CPU is fast enough to just do everything

if browsers are doing the box model.... is it hard to find that box heh?

in some debug tools i can see the red highlights around the elements

at this point it's elementary collision detection

oh! you're right this problem is extremely simple

sorry, that was a little unnecessary

(but at least it wasn't ad hominem!)

heh. maybe whatever webgl spec can help out

this is after all, a somewhat of a graphics problem

collision detection isn't hard and it already looks like the browser is capable of drawing bounding boxes... you don't even have to go after pixel perfect matrix projections of shit. it's a box. where are the other boxes.

but yes, somewhere along the way, something was overcomplicated and now we don't have this

"something was overcomplicated"

it was probably the web

would it be hard to port over the functionality where you "right click" -> "inspect" and you see a blue highlight over the element?

yes

dude-x: I had to do this to get the entire cookie:

for cookie in session.cookies: self.add_cookie(cookie.__dict__)

jimboslice-sl: that makes sense; cookies have two required fields

i think requests doesn't show one of the fields like expiry or something

dude-x: oh, I thought the required ones were (name) and (value)

i think requests gives you a cookie object and not a reguar python dict

but I guess (name) can be empty