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WhereIsMySpoon
:P
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dtornabene
right
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WhereIsMySpoon
what version of selenium/firefox -do- you have
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and gecko
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dtornabene
hold on I'll get both for you
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AutomatedTester
dtornabene: you need 52.0.1 which is the latest, plus latest selenium from pypi
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dtornabene
FF is at 45.8.0
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the selenium is from pypi however
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I'll try to get the FF updated
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thanks for the reply!!! very much appreciated both of you!!
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AutomatedTester
no worries
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WhereIsMySpoon
ow
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45 is well old :P
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AutomatedTester
I suspect that debian is only pushing ESRs
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WhereIsMySpoon
sounds reasonable tbh
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it is debian
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dtornabene
yep
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sucks, would explain why i wasn't getting this on arch
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AutomatedTester
"what year is it"
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WhereIsMySpoon
:P
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AutomatedTester just goes to ask a debian maintainer colleague
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mmmm, arch
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nineteeeeen eighty five
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AutomatedTester
FWIW, debian is a really good OS
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just they are risk adverse
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WhereIsMySpoon
sure, its built for a purpose
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AutomatedTester used debian through university (many many moons ago)
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dtornabene
totally, we use at the hackerspace for infrastructure
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easier to manage in the long run, for new users especially
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AutomatedTester
my colleague used to own iceweasel and recently moved it to firefox proper
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just seeing if he has only moved it to ESR or what
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dtornabene
had to google what esr even stood for
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lol
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thanks again on the help, what a strange error message?
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how would I setup a reproducibility kind of rig, to give a proper bug report in the future?
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ashamed to say I've never actually submitted a bug report in my life
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WhereIsMySpoon
what you did was great actually :)
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dtornabene shrinks in his seat a little bit
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much better than 80% of the reports we get
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dtornabene
haha
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so sad
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WhereIsMySpoon
you gave a tiny test case, with a stack trace
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thats pretty much the definition of a good bug reports
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report*
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giving the software versions would have made it up there :)
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dtornabene
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new firefox, new error message
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and around the carousel goes
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AutomatedTester
dtornabene: that looks like that url doesnt exist
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dtornabene: is your server up?
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dtornabene
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so it should be standing the server up right?
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oh g-d, no
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no it shouldn't
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i've had too much coffee
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WhereIsMySpoon
or too little
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dtornabene
and been awake staring at the screen too long
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hahahahhahaha
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sorry about that one ya'll
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time for some fresh air
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AutomatedTester
dtornabene: more haste, less speed
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dtornabene
truth
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WhereIsMySpoon
heh
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dtornabene
open tmux, lather rinse repeat
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WhereIsMySpoon
*lathers dtornabenen*
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AutomatedTester
WhereIsMySpoon: that might be a HR violation...
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WhereIsMySpoon
im not in his company
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;)
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dtornabene
lol
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coffee, cigarette, fresh air
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WhereIsMySpoon
you know
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the more I do ui stuff
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the more im finding i actually quite like it
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AutomatedTester
WhereIsMySpoon: its significantly easier these days
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WhereIsMySpoon
AutomatedTester: this is without the benefit of a backing framework, mostly
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i like it even more when i work with the boostrap bits
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AutomatedTester
WhereIsMySpoon: my statement still holds
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WhereIsMySpoon
bootstrap*
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fair
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chrome makes it so super easy to modify css in-place
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AutomatedTester
browser compat is amazing these days
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WhereIsMySpoon
ish
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:P
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much better than it used to be for sure
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*switches to ie, sees ui is broken*
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fuck you ie
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AutomatedTester: ill be honest, not even firebug can compare to the ease at which chrome allows you to modify html/css in place
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AutomatedTester
WhereIsMySpoon: historically chrome devs are known for not always following specs
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WhereIsMySpoon
then again, google has a lot more people and money than mozilla
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AutomatedTester bets that IE is doing the right thing according to the spec
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AutomatedTester
and chrome is wrong
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WhereIsMySpoon
AutomatedTester: im aware of that, but that doesnt stop chrome being easier to get 80-90% of the way there with
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AutomatedTester
I havent found it hard to change css/html in firefox
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double click and away you go
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WhereIsMySpoon
it doesnt show all the value options for css properties a lot of the time
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and the ui for doing it is just...not as good
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the look and feel
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but thats subjective :)
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AutomatedTester opens chrome devtools for the first time in a long time
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AutomatedTester
looks very dated
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WhereIsMySpoon
maybe to you :)
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as i said, subjective
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AutomatedTester notes WhereIsMySpoon has poor UI taste
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hahahaha
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i also still feel that both ie and firefox lag behind chrome in terms of speed
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AutomatedTester
god... github is so shit...
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WhereIsMySpoon
rendering speed
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AutomatedTester
WhereIsMySpoon: our UX folks did a test
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they too Chrome and branded it with Firefox and vice versa on the same machine
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WhereIsMySpoon
its not by much :)
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AutomatedTester
chrome branded as firefox was "slower" than the firefox branded as chrome by users
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WhereIsMySpoon
stuff like opening new tabs, opening dev console
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MaKro_
Hello. I'm wondering if anyone can help me to downgrade FF version in selenium hub? I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask..
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WhereIsMySpoon
AutomatedTester: interesting :P
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AutomatedTester
MaKro_: download an old version of firefox from Mozilla
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put it on the machine
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MaKro_
and this is the manual step? there is no way to automate that by passing some kind of parameter?
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AutomatedTester
MaKro_: all manual
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unless you want to setup puppet or that to do it for you
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WhereIsMySpoon
MaKro_: if you have multiple versions of ff on the node, you can specify a version to use
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using capabilities
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but you have to actually have them installed
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no way around that
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MaKro_
ok thank you for the answers
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AutomatedTester
that face when you appear to have broken everything
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..F..FX.F..FF.FF.FF..F.FFFFF.FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....F..F.FF..
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WhereIsMySpoon
D:
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