#selenium

anyone have any code examples on how to write an appium test to test websites using saucelabs that's not in java?

amy, most that say BOT after their name are talking from IRC

this slack and the IRC channel are relayed with each other

oh!

thanks lucast-sl

oooooooh

so I'm on a mac and I have already installed appium and andriod sdk on my computer. Everything seems to check out when running appium-doctor. (lol @shitfucker)

you should be able to run your appium tests locally and just change the 'new driver' construction code to point to saucelabs (it's not any different than running locally, mostly...)

shitfucker? really?

yep

we don't discriminate based on names, only irc does

or rather, freenode

@lukeis I actually don't know how to run things locally

read through appium.io ?

i'm totally new to this ... i was trying to set it up and it confused me

i don't have an actual device and i don't have an app

you know how to use selenium webdirver with desktop browsers?

yes

with python

you have a mac? install xcode, try running a test against Safari on iOS

how do i run a test against safari on ios? change the cap?

yep

ahhhh

is there a master list of products/tools that wrap selenium? like robot framework, jasmine, etc.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t even know how that’d be possible just curious

thank you @lukeis going to try that now :slightly_smiling_face:

np, good luck ;)

bmwinstead-sl do you mean test frameworks or test runners?

frameworks mostly

What language are you interested in?

any really

but the big ones are python, powershell, js

We were just talking about Davehunt's py-test-selenium and pypom for page objects

Js I personally recommend WebDriver.io

The documentation includes page objects

No ideas about PowerShell

powershell can just use any .net thing

it likely won’t be used either

I don't know of any open source dotnet frameworks

really

I'm going to start making a bigger deal about promoting open source frameworks

Because selenium by itself isn't sufficient for writing a test suite

there lies the problem i see…. selenium isn't a test authoring tool…. it's just a tool :) (and I disagree with everyone who's put the 'framework' on some of our docs)

another term i'd accept is a library ;)

akin to how people think of an Http Request library (or tool)

that was one of the things i asked my manager before i started, what test framework did they use with selenium

and he just said selenium

(it turned out to be unittest)

lukeis: agree with you. not a framework

lucast: and you still joined?!?! :)

best job i've ever had :)

and i immediately switched all new tests to pytest

mach6: heh, lunch break? ;)

lukeis: not yet, now that you mention it, sounds good

and my gut reaction to #3182 is something seems wrong

03GxtPerfectoM open Session cleaner and Default session - https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/pull/3182 []

oh, i figured you were doing some PR code review while "on lunch" :) which is what i was doing

same opinion re #3182..

03GxtPerfectoM open Session cleaner and Default session - https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/pull/3182 []

I distinguish library, framework and harness/runner

titusfortner-sl what are the popular libraries that use selenium for the rails wolrd?

on the subject of frameworks, I love Serenity BDD

@dude-x Capybara is the framework of choice for Rails

Cheezy's Page Object gem is probably the most used Page Object Framework, often in conjunction with Watir, but not exclusively since it does its own wrapping

Cheezy is updating all of the things in page-object gem, so I'm looking forward to digging into the new code

both Capybara and page-object gem are much more DSL/Framework oriented than Watir is

I'm mostly against BDD tools still

way overhyped in my opinion