#selenium

a virtual school if you will

so this is for people who home school?

for college

its like college classes i believe

….no its for k-12, not college

but they test everything in the ide and have thousands of scripts

What's K12?

i do *not* believe in the record-playback paradigm as a method of creating maintainable tests. automating a browser is a development activity, and requires development skills.

full stop.

Can someone tell me how to change value in a variable please using the IDE?

store 5 i now how do I change i to 10 later on?

"K-12" == "kindergarten through 12th grade"

u don't do it in the IDE…u have to export the code and modify it there

stop using the IDE

oh you are right it is k12

ha ha ha

LTCD: probably not possible with the ide

Fuck it

im not just going with what other people are saying here, im serious

the ide has limitations

LTCD: gonna be honest with you man, maybe you can use the ide to export and mess around and learn some stuff. it is extremely limited

and having local variables that increment inside loops is probably one of them

Loops work fine, but fine next project I will.

its only 9:20am and i already want a beer looking at todays work -_-

#pubtime

mmmm i have meetings with UK folks who aren't heading to the pub

errant_rider: ur doin it wrong

far from pub time for me im like 5 hours behind you ;p

all meetings belong in the pub

:P

^

Tal_: same here tbh :P 2:19 here

i work above 2 different bars, i never get home on time =P

lol

Seems good

taunt you with their tasty hops

barley just calling your name

its 9am here

Hello all.

all isnt here

Hey Spoon!

i can get you someone instead

or nobody

oh dear, im being recognised

lol

Someone answer me this question:

never

Of the following By instantiations, are at least 2 of them functionally identical?

public final By byButtonMyRates = By.cssSelector("[class = 'pure-button seerates']");

public final By byButtonMyRates = By.className("pure-button seerates");

the second wont work

public final By byButtonMyRatesss = By.className("pure-button.seerates");

or the third

Correct, spoon.

className works for one class

wait, you knew?

i dont need to be tested thanks

I wasn't testing

then why ask

It's leading up to another question and I couldn't quite figure out how to formulate it

oh

The question is "Why do the bottom two By's not work?"

But you've answered that as className only works for a single class.

...?

did you know that already?

I did not know that

oh right

I knew that the bottom two selectors were not working, but I didn't know why

Leon_: yes. if you need multiple class names, use a css selector

also btw, the first selector is a bit too much

By.cssSelector(".pure-button.seerates") will work fine

Because I can shorten it with By.cssSelector(".pure-button.seerates")?

mhm

slenium ide: when I create a second 'test case' I can see only the content of one test case in the 'table/source' section. is this a feature or a bug?

if memory serves, the exception thrown when you use By.className with a "compound class name" tells you as much.

@Jimevans, I would hope that were true, but I simply get a "TimeoutException"

Leon_: then you're using it as part of a wait.

and i would fully expect a timeout exception.

Ahh yes, true.

Were the SeConf India talks recorded this year?

can anyone help with a noob question?

smccarthy: i'd be surprised if they weren't

fluor_: you'll find most people in the channel don't use IDE.

ok cool

why is it so?

fluor_: i, for one, don't use it, and i remain purposefully and willfully ignorant about it, so that i won't have to help people who use it.

fluor_: speaking only for me, i don't believe in the record-playback paradigm as a method for creating reliable, maintainable tests.

^ +1

^+2

Hey, Spoon-- y'still there?

no

:p

fluor_: i believe that automating a browser is, and ought to be, a software development (e.g. programming) activity, and as such, people doing the task of automating a browser should possess software development (e.g. programming/coding) skills.

sup

Leon, Fork is here

Compare these By statements...

is there a channel were the devs of ide meet?

liuedx: fork off

lol

fluor_: i don't believe there is one dedicated to that, no.

fluor_: you could try asking on stackoverflow

By.cssSelector("#Loan.applicant.dateOfBirth_testingid")

By.id("Loan.applicant.dateOfBirth_testingid")

bear in mind that selenium ide is mostly unmaintained.

Are the three of these instantiations not identical?

not sure about tha tfirst one with the dot

the second adn third should be

jimevans: that makes sense

The first one is the only one that is functioning properly =/

Which surprised me too

Hence why I am asking, lol

Leon_: depending on the html of the page you're running that code against, i'd suspect they're all working "properly," but just not how you expect. :)

Interestingly enough... If I right click the element and click "inspect in Firepath", the selector that is generated is By.cssSelector("#Loan.applicant.dateOfBirth_testingid")

However, it says that he resulting node count for that query is 0.

....Upon inspecting the very element.

However, if I change it to the above xpath, it finds it no problem.

oh. hang on.

you've got a period in the id.

Is that the issue?

that's a special character in css selectors.

Ahh okay...

By.cssSelector("[id='Loan.applicant.dateOfBirth_testingid']") works fine.

And it's a bit cleaner than the xpath, so I think i'll go with that one

oh yeah, duh ><

period means class name

the person who put periods in their ids is silly

jimevans: your argument is basically a workers-union type argument. There are basically tasks in testing that are so stupid that someone who can code a line get bored to death even thinking about it. ide would provide a means to provide low-level testing jobs, even for php or python scripters.

so what you're asking with By.cssSelector("#Loan.applicant.dateOfBirth_testingid") is "give me the element that has an id of 'Loan' and contains the classes 'applicant' and 'dateOfBirth_testingid'"

fluor_: no, what he's saying is that the task is never that simple to create a reliable, robust test suite

fluor_: um, no, that's not my argument at all.

the reason why you get programmers to do test automation is because it is not trivial

fluor_: "testers" != "browser automators"

with the last one you are only right if your company has ide. otherwise tester=automator.

Hi

Hi Team , I am pushparaj from Chennai

fluor_: don't misunderstand me. the point i'm making is that there is great value in testing, and not all testers need to know how to automate. however, if one is going to be automating, one should really be able to code.

note further that not all tests need be automated.

^ +1 to all that

i need one help from selenium grid node

Is it possible to run multiple node in single machine

Pushparaj: yep

How to use different port in single machine