#selenium

Maitre2B: yes, if you're here to talk about selenium

Whououh !

I'm a beginner with Selenium & java, i'm trying to create a bot to test a feature on my website

But i need the bot to change adresse IP every cycle

didn't find any method to change IP adress

i need to get a different ip adress everytime the bot connects on my website

huh...

what OS?

i'm on W7

any idea ? :s

Maitre2B: Work out how you do that when you do it manually, recreate it as part of your test, ..., profit.

i don't even know how to do it manually lol

i thought there will be a function / method to do that with Selenium

ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew in cmd ?

?

Maitre2B: Do you mean you need the server that connects to the website to have a different IP address, yes?

hum.. no :s

i have a bot than connects to my website. I want this bot to have a different IP Adress everytime he connects to my website, so i can see different sessions

right, so you want whatever machine is connecting to your website to have a different IP address

yup

in this case, it's my program in java

yes, but the program itself isn't the thing that handles the IP address

that's generally the operating system

yes

So i need this program to change my operating system IP adress, right ?

there's no specific Selenium thing to handle that, so you'll, yeah, need to find a way to interact with the networking stack to either change IP or request a new IP address from its DHCP server if it has one

oh god, okay :/

internal or external network?

what's the difference ? :x

i guess internal as it's my box / internet

is your website also on the same network, or are you connecting across the internet? Obivously if it's the latter you'll need to have more than one public IP address

no it's not

What's the use case, are you testing code that specifically requries different IPs connecting to it?

This program should work with any URL adress i want

yes exactly

i want my program to change my IP Adress, and then go on the specified website

hm, that's quite a tough one - best I'm really able to do is point you in the direction of things like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19376215/how...

i guess i should use a different proxy for every single time i connect to the website, right ?

Can someone explain to me (or point me to a doc/slides/ect) the difference between sending a synthetic event, such as mousedown, using webdriver vs using pure javascript injection [e.g. var event = new Event('mousedown'); document.querySelector('input#someid').dispatchEvent(event) ] ?

brma: ^

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=selenium+synthetic+events :P

brma: synthetic events versus javascript actions is mostly the same except webdriver has extra checks for visibility.

WhereIsMySpoon: https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selbot2/pull/33

:)

WhereIsMySpoon: I've ready that. My issue is that I see differences in my SUT when I inject the javascript myself, vs when I let webdriver create the synthetic events

I just want to understand why

i remember once having a test pass because we used javascript to set the dropdown

problem with that was the dropdown was actually broken

so it was better to use actual webdriver (Even if synthetic) to set a dropdown

dude-x: yes. Did you ever understand *why* that was the case?

yes

brma: that'd be specific to your use case and what you're operating on

i would imagine

dude-x: please elaborate, this is similar to what I'm seeing

setting a value is doing that exactly. I am saying "Be this value"

as opposed to "click here, then click there"

if the previous author used webdriver to set a dropdown, then it would fail because the option to select won't be there due to visibility, checks

oops

oh, gotcha. Ok my issue is that I see differences when I tell webdriver click here, click there vs doing the exact same clicks, just using javascript events directly

brma: trying to rebuild your app logic using js events and dispatch is a really good waste of time

imo

why are you trying to use js events and not just using webdriver

WhereIsMySpoon: fascinating

is webdriver not working?

got a url brma?

brma: hang on, you're clicking an input box? you arent trying to attach a file are you?

Unfortunately no. I'm doing some security work, so I can't rally get into specifics about the SUT. I'm not attaching a file no.

okay

brma: is there a reason why you are trying to use js events?

and not just use webdriver's clicks and carry on

Well, this is more about understanding the difference between the two. Webdriver's clicks work fine, I am just trying to understand the difference. I can detect that there is a real difference between using a webdriver synthetic click and a javascript event injected click

brma: the first thing to check is that if you are -actually- doing the same logical thing

ok, tell me more :)

there may be app-specific logic behind mouseover or mouseup/mousedown or mouseevent

example: clicking at an element, a transparent element on top actually recieves the click

or that ^

assuming you're the same type of click as webdriver, the only difference between webdriver and JS is webdriver does check if the element you're clikcing is visible first, then it sends the click event.

webdriver's click will do exactly what a user's click will do

your recreation of a click event may not

brma: have you tried document.querySelector("input#someid").click() ?

instead of your dispatchEvent thing

dude-x: ok thanks. This is good info.

Maybe worth mentioning that also what browser thus what driver you're using can make a difference

another thing too to consider is that when webdriver retrieves an element it's stored in a cache, which represents a certain state of the DOM. if you just do a click event with no checks, then it may happen to soon.

Thanks everyone. This is all good info. I'll do some more digging and additional research to get to the bottom of my issue.

im still really not sure why you're doing these js events n the first place

seems like an xy problem to me

but -shrug-

WhereIsMySpoon: I have my reasons :)

I'm doing both webdriver AND the js events. Same tests, different behavior from the SUT. That's why I'm asking all these questions

but I'll keep digging, you guys gave me good info

:changelog

:changelogs

no bot :(

:apis

hm, selbot does appear to be dead

:log