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ordered a topmodel avia

:)

I uh, had a coupon... That's a good excuse to buy something, right?

holy crap, it's coming tomorrow

that's nuts

fastest fedex ground shipment ever

lol

hmm

anyone compared the Hyperion DS09/DS11 to the Hitec HS-5065MG?

vlcn: no, but i have DS09-SCD in my dlg

they’re *awesome*

my mentors also use them in all their dlgs

vlcn: also, you have a vario? before getting more planes, get a vario

it’s *the* key to becoming a better thermal soarer

even our F3B germany team pilot at the field says so — even though you cannot use varios in f3b :-)

vlcn: so, how would you do your fuse crack now after that video? :D

possible, but not the best idea… :-)

flying today?

seems like a nice day :)

why do soarers like to go on mountains ?

is there a stream of air constantlty toing towards the peak of the mountain ?

slope soaring is fun :-) unlimited lift

(if there’s wind)

wint blows upwards the mountain ?

yep, if there’s wind blowing straigh onto a slope, the slope directs it upwards

hah.

in case of a cliff you can have completely vertical wind :D

so unlimited energy ?

yep

i see some large gliders on youtube

mostly recorded on Alps

www.youtube.com : Blacktierstart - YouTube

and i dont understand how after long flights, they still have energy to return to the pilot

(friend of mine in holidays -.- *envyyyy*)

where should the energy the wind is pumping in them go? height :-)

is that austria?

no, france

how to get that thing on top of the alps ?

because i have seen larger gliders on the Alps :)

found your answer it seems :-)

only in europe :)_

Nebukadneza, yes I have a vario

the frsky varios are cheap and very light, no excuse not to use them.

Nebukadneza, I'm trying to decide if the DS09 or DS11 would be more suitable for the Avia ordered

also feel free to call me names for ordering the Avia :P

but I had a coupon and it should be really nice for calm days.

Hi everybody!!

Hello! (^_^)/

Hullo wot

hi

Hello! (^_^)/

Heya Superbia

How goes it?

slow man

brothers hubsan seems dead

so cant fly that... and i have nothing else to fly :9

better find something, you're gonna start going into withdrawls

vlcn: the high precision one?

yeah

cool :-)

I have in the Kunai and one I'm planning to put in the dlg

also build an openxvario and compare :-) i like them better, and a ~biiit~ cheaper

but frsky high precision is good

also

vlcn: NAMES

hmm?

hard decision on the servos though

do DS11 fit?

also, from the video, did you understand how to go forth with your fuse?

pretty much, though I'm probably just going to cut up some cf tow and mix it in with 30 minute epoxy

it's not cracked the whole way through

just the gel coat

just want to reinforce it a bit

uh

NO

this is a $100 model we are talking about, remember :P

that’s b*s and might just make things worse

yep, perfect learning platform for how to do it right

i also bough a totally trashed challenger to learn how to repair fuse

The recommended servos for the Avia are the Hitec HS-5065MG

ok, so glass breaks „visibly white“

iirc the DS11 are pretty much the same size

what you’d do is, at the crack, start sanding up the gelcoat/paint until you see the glass, and try to find the white-looking crack, which can hide under gelcoat/paint

then you expand your area to whereever white still shows, sanding off gelcoat

then, you sand down the crack, so you have sloped surfaces toward the crack from both sides, down to 0 at the crack (a small gap is better than left cracked fibers)

then you examine the layup, put clear foil over the area, mark inside and outside of the „slope“ area again, with a bit of overlap

cut the exact same layup of fabric, wet out, slightly wet the fuse part (use masking tape…)

the fabric you cut too large, wet on clear film, then put the clear film with the shape marking above, push out air with old credit card, pull off one side of the film, and push it onto the fuse

then some glossy film or peel ply on it, and using kitchen plastic wrap, wrap as tightly as you can

next day, closely masking tape, and sand until flat again

well, is recommended == fits? not every model recommends servos that do actually fit the thickness size-wise

btw, whether 09 or 11, use the SCD variant

also, do not ever put CF on a glass fuse

and especially not spread tow!

it’s way waaay more stiff and brittle

i.e. when the glass still flexes, the CF breaks at some point spontanously, creating sharp edges that cut your glass, then your glass breaks from the „hit” of the instant stiffness loss and beeing cut

so veeery bad idea

even on a 100€ glider you can just do it right :-)

because some day a good one’s gonna break

and at least i need to train those crafts things a lot … i guess everyone does?

so, train it now where it doesn’t matter that much

why the SCD variant Nebukadneza?

they have considerably less play

which is more important than robustness against hits like the metal variant offers

with a hit to the control surfaces that hard, things break anyway

I could see that being important on a DLG, but even on something like the Avia? I'd expect the wing to contribute more 'slop' than a metal gear servo.

but the slops add up

if the control surfaces are hinged and „closed“ well, your rod and horns are made well, then i don’t see where much play should come from

ailerons at least are full balsa, right?

ailerons and flaps are I think

do you already know how to do proper „crossed“ (not sure of the english term?) linkages with straight geometry and little slop?

wow that was a fun flight

15 min with hubsan

hi

hi

Hello! (^_^)/

Nebukadneza, I think I'll do the DS11-SCB for everything but flaps.

DS11-AMB for those