#pyramid

raydeo: yea I am not commenting as much about the needed complexity.

btw just noticed that it supports both 'composit' and 'composite' as spellings for the composites

what is worse it uses both internally :(

hey all!

I have a question regarding session factories. I know that there are plenty out there, and three of them are metioned in pyramid's documentation (nacl, redis, beaker as backends). In my case, I'm using mongo as my backend, I don't necessarilly need my sessions to be sync'ed among app servers, so I could use the nacl backend, but then again I would like to try some backend that is based on a data storage,

and ideally mongo.

(since that's what I'm using in my app)

what session factory would you suggest for this?

the one that's not yet written... :F

it depends on the needs

I wouldn't use *any of those*

as such,

or alone.

for example if you consider a high-security application, then the user must be able to enumerate the sessions they've logged in to and none of these readily support them.

also "not being sync'd among app servers" sounds like a potential scalability issue

couldn't you switch from MongoDB to Redis and use the Redis one ?

it works great, and that's what we use here

redis one cannot enumerate the sessions a user has.

also, redis is ram only.

it sucks when you have X gigabytes of sessions and you just need to have that much RAM just because

ztane: what do you use instead?

we don't store that much data in the session here

maybe an SQLAlchemy session would be a good thing too

thanks both for your suggestsions. I'm thinking about the redis as well, but hoped that there would exist one for mongo too so as not to just have an additional service running only for my sessions.

and as far as SQLAlchemy is concerned, I suppose it needs an RDB backend to work with.

of course

mamalos: you could maybe take a look at Beaker and pyramid_beaker

there is a mongodb factory

OK, is it considered "safe" in terms of session handling, enumeration, highjacking, etc.?

I would say that as long as the session cookie is marked "secure" and http only, and that you use SSL/TLS it should be safe

and use json (not pickle or something similar) on the server-side storage

mage_: sorry, in terms of the server-side storage, I thought you meant that beaker also "supports" a mongo backend via the mongodb factory? Or did I misunderstand you?

I think so yes

cool, will try it out. Thanks!

from what I read you can provide a mongodb connection string or an already existing MongoClient instance.

Anyone know how to format ${val} or ${num} in deform error messages when they are dates?

are there any documents on raven intergraion with exception views in pyramid?

i don't want to use logging module, is there a way to do this, maybe some api to send exceptions directly?

the docs on their site are really bad

Ergo we're using a local installation of Sentry

this seems to be a reasonable approach

the sentry docs are stupid easy, too

stevepiercy: those docs are completly useless for me

I don't want to use logging module

btw. this is new sdk - the project has Raven client currently

Ergo i won't be much help cuz i didn't set it up

and the client didn't document how they set it up

Ergo: https://gist.github.com/wichert/1fb5ee81d1ff0ba...

wiggy: i was worried that i will end up with pile of code like that :(

that code adds a couple of nifty things though

celery integration, a request.raven object so you can pass extra data to sentry, with a mock-version if SENTRY_DSN is not set

and an event system so you can pass extra data to raven

you can trim it down quite a bit if you don't need everything I added

yeah, well ideally I want just to send the data that wsgi middleware + exception view

thanks, i will grab what i need

it seems, that my implementation is enough

I wonder how client gets the request info from just sentry_client.captureException(), probably some threadlocal tricks

stevepiercy: btw. my approach works it seems