#pyramid

hello guys

i never used pyramid before, i come from flask, but i'm having troubles with it and its tutorial

can maybe someone give me a little hand with a simple application?

i have to develop an e-commerce site, i already have the whole template, but can't figure out how to get started with pyramid.

Paradisee a template is all you have?

by template, i mean full graphic, and so on.

ecommerce sites usually involve a great deal more complexity than just HTML, CSS, and images

if you use PayPal buttons, you're done

anyway.

if you want to write your own ecommerce app, i'd first ask what kind of web apps have you previously created?

i've made lot of them, where people buy stuff.

have you done any programming?

all the time.

in what language?

py.

i'm not a beginner if that is what i wanna ask

ok, just had to weed out the possible poser

you*

yeah

yeah, if you had no experience with web app dev, i'd say go learn some stuff, come back in about a year

so with Pyramid, it's just Python

with a bunch of cool stuff slapped on top

that's a crude description, but not too far off the mark

i don't know if you used flask before, but i usually add a route/view for my html page, but in pyramid the things seems pretty different (not so different)

i see you can use .pt

ok, so i'd recommend looking at some examples of configuring routes in the Quck Tutorial

i've read that almost.

.pt is simply one kind of template

Quick

Quack

bvasically its html.

right

which is what made me think at first, uh-oh, newb

templates have nothing to do with configuring routes

ya, i know that

all the stuff is done in python.

you are probably most familiar with url dispatch

this is the relevant step in the Quick Tutorial http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/...

from the example i can see this: @view_config(route_name='home', renderer='templates/mytemplate.pt')

yup

but it should be added in some way?

i mean, in the config or somewhere else?

i mean the orute.

config.add_static_view('static', 'static', cache_max_age=3600)

config.add_route('home', '/')

that's what im trying to understand.

"it" as in the route?

?

[00:29:22] <Paradisee> from the example i can see this: @view_config(route_name='home', renderer='templates/mytemplate.pt')

[00:29:37] <Paradisee> but it should be added in some way?

the view.py should have all these methods and decoratore that describe where the template should be "routed"

there are a few ways to configure routes. in the method demonstrated, the route is configured in the __init.py__ file

but do i need to define them in the config?

ya, i saw that

that's just one way to configure routes

i would like to avoid that way

morning

instead, like in flask just making methods to define them.

morning.

ah, there's a problem with that

with how flask does it

sure, it's easy, but....

read the note in the blue box at the start of that Step 11.

Why do this twice? Other Python web frameworks let you create a route and associate it with a view in one step. As illustrated in Routes Need Relative Ordering, multiple routes might match the same URL pattern. Rather than provide ways to help guess, Pyramid lets you be explicit in ordering. Pyramid also gives facilities to avoid the problem. It's relatively easy to build a system that uses implicit route ordering with Pyramid too.

yup

that one

"other frameworks" includes Flask

YA

so it's reccomended to make all the routes in the __init__ ?

i'll give a try. i'm gonna fail so badly :D

failing is good because you learn what not to do

ParseError: Unexpected end tag.

- String: "</div>"

- Filename: /home/paradisee/Documents/Pyramid/Reatina/reatina/templates/index.pt

]np

is there a way to return the whole page.pt ?

instead of a dict.

you can return a response directly

can you make me an example?

Paradisee regarding Route Configuration, see: http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/... That's the long, complete story

Paradisee the paste you gave does not show a route configuration

that's in the __init__

and it is from the scaffold.

didn't change nothing there yet.

hey guys

o/

as a sanity check, Paradisee do you have a working demo of a Pyramid app?