#pyramid

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i guess i can no longer tweak your nipples

We can ask raydeo when he gets up

I could live with functions like '.issue #<num>' to actually get it to show me stuff, but other than that meh.

stevepie_: just have the cricket score open to wind up me and MatthewWilkes

i don't think i'll ever understand cricket

or sweater vests

rhubarb is a nasty vegetable. what does it have to do with cricket?

i swear you cricket fans string random words together to make it sound like you're talking about a legitimate sport

It's more than sport. It's a cultural phenomenon.

The stick of rhubard is a cliché used by one the commentators. You can play Boycott bingo

Johnson mailboxed the frigate, giving Smith the wombat for twiddling the spongecake

It's less numbers based than baseball

and i will bet that has actual meaning in cricket culture

The game is constantly on a knife edge and England are always able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

America could be like this if only you could stop caring about success

bayz boll is awful

We like anything we can mine for irony.

failure is awesome. i'm very successful at it

Shit, Broad's out. Time for some last wicket swashbuckling by Anderson

oh noez! Broad got jimmied on the fencepost!

The commentary is great. You can listen either to the BBC via YouTube or guerrilla cricket. Which is some sad middle age blokes commentating about what they can see on the telly.

Beats programming for a living. There is always cake.

what?!? there's cake?

damn, i'm coming out of retirement

i am always amused by merkin commentators on soccer

applying american football terms to soccer

maybe if you had to directly address psyhinx to make it do something.

psyhinx blow me

that'll be $100, steve.

i gotcher bitcoins right here

i apologize for that comment.

chrisrossi: yeah, commands like in other channels. I think joules programmed some.

?? request

yeah, something to signify intent.

At the moment it's like clippy

?? traversal

fwiw, setting the locale environ explicitly in supervisord.conf fixes my problem. seems kind of silly, though.

I seem to hit all kinds of problems when I set the locale.

I like to set it to EN_UK because a lot of the German translations are shitty but I hit weird tox/pytest issues if I do this.

stevepie_: still cant get it to work -.-

I can get vars into the header that are assigned directly in the main template

but

I cannot set variables in my python in the template object before calling render instead of passing them into render()?

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I would expect to be able to just ${somevar} or ${self.somevar} in my template

can anyone tell me what I did wrong there in my mako initialization?

miigotu: I know nothing about Mako but the way you're setting up the template looks weird to me.

The object was to have a set of variables preset for any object of PageTemplate, because I have quite a few

namely because I didn't want to completely rewrite the cheetah template from scratch

Like I said, I've no experience with Mako but I think the pattern should be similar to Chameleon: the view passes the template anything it needs and the view is visible ot templates.

So you may need to rewrite the views a bit more.

@route() is not a common pattern in Pyramid as far as I know. But I could be wrong.

the worst thing about the bot is that its owner is rarely here.

Let's kick it

Not using pyramid

@route is a tornado decorator

Just that mako doc said to go to #pylons and #pylons says to go here for help =P

oh, you might be out of luck on this channel then.

Use the ML

ML?

mailing list

ew

thanks anyways

I think Ill just override render in my wrapper class, maybe that will work

FYI: the stable pyramid builds are currently broken due to failing tests: https://travis-ci.org/Pylons/pyramid/builds/732...

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What pyramid version do you recommend?

e.g. for distributions

frispete_: The latest "stable" is failing to build due to easy_install pulling in WebOB 1.5.0a0 rather than the latest stable WebOb.

Hmm, looks like pip is used during that install.

Weird.

when I have two 'competing' view_configs, differing in the request_param predicate, the stricter predicate (with more terms to the request_param) isn't preferred over the other.. is this simply how it is, or considered a defect?

Elmer: can you show an example

x58: yeah looks like pyramid is not digging the new webob very much

raydeo: I can definitely code with some text, a moment :)

x58: 2 runtime warnings and a whole bunch of failures in response.status = int_value

raydeo: http://paste.ofcode.org/Bpaf399b3yNBArWc3eYdgi hope that explains it better

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ah, they are ambiguous I think but let me look further

x58: thanks - I found it failing for the latest changes only, not when 1.5.8 was released...

miigotu: have you looked at the BeforeRender event to make variables available to the template?

BTW: if looking for pyramid in PyPI, only pyramid 1.6a2 is shown, without a link to the stable version, no link in the docs...

in the docs, I found a reference to 1.5.8, and tried that as a PyPI URL - you shouldn't do it THAT hard to get newbees to the latest stable version

we can't fix pypi

what do you suggest

Elmer: where can I read about this? I saw a preprocessor, but that was different than what I need

miigotu: http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/...

Title: pyramid.events The Pyramid Web Framework v1.5.7 (at docs.pylonsproject.org)

Aha, Elmer, I am not using pylons

or pyramid

I will look at the code in it though

frispete_: ok I hid 1.6a2 and made 1.5.7 visible

no idea where you found 1.5.8 which doesn't exist though

miigotu: ah that explains a bit.. not sure how to achieve the thing you want to then.. accessing a variable that isn't added to render() might not be a thing that Mako does though

As far as I can see it doesnt

Elmer: afaict we don't do any sorting of predicate values right now

predicates are not supposed to be a subset of eachother atm

I am currently working on a wrapper class that holds a dict of vars I want to pass to the templates, a method to add/remove items form the dict, and overriding render()

raydeo: yeah there's no relative weight/priority to them, that's what I got from the code.. understandable, but it'd be nice to have though

should keep my port from becoming hella messy

Elmer: yeah we'd have to add in some new constructs that aren't there atm to support it

like expecting the phash to be sortable

or a new order term

raydeo: well the values themselves are sorted by the `as_sorted_tuple(val)` call

so there's that

that's not between views

ahh, I get what you mean now.. sortable / solvable to create a graph

yeah you're asking for the predicate *value* to be included in the view weighting

instead of just the presence of the predicate