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      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: trying to make self contained packages wherein I have a binary built into the package, like any .deb or .rpm can do
      • binford2k: I have some binaries that need to credentials to be downloaded from vendors and in order to host them internally and automate them I need to be able to package them for the windows systems
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      • binford2k
        riceandbeans you can include files
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      • riceandbeans better practice to host it somewhere, probably
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      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: we host internally though, is that bad?
      • binford2k
        riceandbeans no, that's fine
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      • riceandbeans question: are you asking if you can store credentials (like a certificate?) in the package? You can, not sure it's a good idea, but you can
      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: no no no
      • I want to store the binary
      • binford2k
        riceandbeans or are you asking if you can store the installer in the package? You also can, but also not a great idea
      • riceandbeans
        the exe/msi IN the package
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      • Doc__
        RE
      • riceandbeans
        #chocolatey is dead, #windows have no idea, no one at my company right now seems to know the answer, and you guys created chocolatey...so I figure if anyone knows, you guys would
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      • binford2k
        riceandbeans I'd store installers on a share, repo, etc
      • Doc__
        Question, how can I have puppet sync a file ONLY IF a particular package is already installed. If its not installed do nothing
      • binford2k
        riceandbeans and just reference them
      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: and then just have the powershell pull from there?
      • I can do that
      • binford2k
        riceandbeans yup
      • riceandbeans
        I do it with other packages....
      • binford2k
        Doc__ you don't think like that
      • riceandbeans
        but I worry about it in certain cases
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      • binford2k: I have one binary that's a little over 1GB
      • binford2k
        Doc__ if you're managing something, manage it. If you're not, don't
      • Doc__ don't write in weird little conditionals.
      • Doc__
        binford2k I don't want to push config files to hosts that don't have the need for them
      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: do you forsee issues with the 1GB download of the binary through chocolatey?
      • binford2k
        Doc__ right. If you're managing apache, manage all of apache. the package, the config files, the service, etc
      • Doc__
        binford2k, in this case openlava, basically I want "If openlava installed then" file { source =>...}
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      • I don't want to ensure openlava installed because I don't know how to tag a host for being an openlava service
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      • binford2k
        riceandbeans no. It will be fine
      • Doc__ I know what you are asking, you've said it three times.
      • Doc__ I am saying don't do that or you will come to hate yourself
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      • agaffney
        Doc__: don't try to workaround the fact that you don't (yet) know how to classify nodded
      • nodes
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      • Doc__
        ok, I sure don't want to hate myself. And yes I would LOVE to wrap my head around how to classify nodes. I had dashboard working and I was able to "tag" nodes there and do "things" however, dashboard died, and I don't know how to classify nodes from the cli
      • binford2k
        Doc__ go grab the learning VM and practice
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      • agaffney
        there's more than one way to skin that cat
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      • riceandbeans
        binford2k: thanks man
      • Doc__
        what I am looking to avoid is having a ton of case $hostname stuff in the site.pp
      • agaffney
        hiera, an ENC (what the dashboard likely was), or just old school node definitions
      • that would be the worst possible route you could take
      • Doc__
        everything else is working awesome. I am just having an issue wrapping my head around this final piece.
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      • agaffney
        go do some learning and stop coming up with bad ideas because you don't know the right way
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      • binford2k
        Doc__ you want to get to the point where you can describe a node as a short list of the things it has on it.
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      • Doc__
        TYVM binford2k, I am sure that will assist me in learning more rapidly. Thanks for you time.
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      • binford2k
        np
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      • riceandbeans
        agaffney: tell us how you really feel ;)
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      • agaffney
        I don't think anybody wants that
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      • greybean
        it was stringify_facts causing my problems. thanks for the help.
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