##osx-server

G'day.

Good morning!

Sedorox: I'm reading your post on BSDP: http://brandon.penglase.net/index.php?title=Get...

Will this still work with the newest versions of the OS?

I would really like to have 10.4, 10.6, 10.9, and 10.11

All our netboot servers are linux running BDSP and we boot up to 10.11

Nice

Anything that has to be customized for each version?

Or can I just add more instances of what is on the page I linked to?

TyrfingMjolnir: haven't tried it, but don't see why it wouldn't

And do I need netboot images, or can I convert a regular installer image to netboot image?

might have to adjust a few things

Such as?

if they updated versions of the netboot spec

I doubt they did tho

OK

I'm asking because somebody wrote that I would need to have the same version netboot as the MacOS X hosting the file

but to the best of my knowledge (it's been a bit since I worked on it), I haven't heard anyone saying it didn't work with the newer ones

hmm

But that might be if the MacOS X Server is used to host the images

like the OS serving the netboot file needs to be the same version as the netboot? that sounds off

No

That images will have to be signed for the OS hosting it?

the netboot image must contain drivers for the hardware it is booting

I didn't quite understand

OK, I'll try this one

yea... I'm not sure.. there is what fuzzylogiq just said.. which means you can't use a netboot OS version that is lower than your hardware is

so if you have a new piece of hardware, it might not be bootable by your current image, and may need to have the image created on that hardware

Ideally I would like to have ISC DHCPD host netboot.xyz, BSDPm, and Windows images

i.e. if you have a machine that shipped with 10.10 on it, you can't use a 10.8 netboot

TyrfingMjolnir: I don't see any reason you couldn't

oki

you might want to look at BSDPy too

I have BSDPy running on a separate node

yea, there are some more nicer solutions out there now

However my problem is how to I make it coexist with the linux boot images

we don't use it but we're considering it because it has an API and we may offer it as a service

Cannot help you there, our servers just serve mac images

I mean What's wrong with Sedorox approach? compared to BSDPy?

the stuff I listed is just lower level, iirc

nothing, really...fewer people using it though

but it's the method we're using

BSDPy (I'm assuming) just wraps it into a nice way of doing it

depends on what your end goal is, and what makes it easier to get there

But the Sedorox approach is just some lines in the config, right? While BSDPy is a separate application/daemon?

I think so

What is the meaning of next-server: IP?

and it isn't specifically my approach.. I just went through apple's docs on netbooting, and listed how to do it with isc-dhcp... not the first or the last to do it :)

next-server == tftpserver

I just used the term in this conversation to make a distinction between BSDPy and the other approach

:)

the other advantage to bsdpy, if implemented correctly, is that you ccan pick the netboot image from 'Startup Disk' in system preferences

isc-dhcp is lacking on functionality to make that work

which apparently it does do: "What they have in common is that none are compatible with the OS X Startup Disk preference pane because it uses a randomized reply port instead of the standard port (68)."

I think for your puroses, doing the full isc-dhcp implementation, that you can then control for all the OSs, makes more sense

that's something I've been wanting to work on.. but lack of time and programming skills haven't alowed me to get far on that goal

Hmmm

Perhaps there is also an ipxe approach to BSDP>

?

hehe