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      • tvsutton
        I mean, no, you don't need to recreate those plists
      • Those should only be needed whenever there's a new base installer, so a major new "product"
      • Bit_
        hmmm... I mean the update packages.
      • like now, there are new updates of Photoshop, Illustrator... etc. So, I have to recreate new .ccp files and recreate new product-plists? No?
      • using aamporter (Tim Sutton)
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      • foigus
        Shouldn't need to. If you're looking for the updates that are available for a .ccp file that reflects installing, say, Photoshop CC 2015 I'd think you'd just re-run aamporter when the new updates are released.
      • Bit_
        hmm... but if you take a look inside a .ccp file, there you can see the updates for product.
      • Orphis_
        Nick_ZWG: I'm just wondering how I can integrate the suppression mechanisms (bash scripts) with a pkg that does the system upgrade
      • Bit_
        And if you don't recreate the .ccp, then how will aamporter find out new updates?
      • Nick_ZWG
        Orphis_ : You should read the documentation createOSXInstallPkg
      • It allows you to incorporate other packages, such as the ClearRegistration package I linked ealrier
      • If you want to apply configurations as part of the upgrade process, that's a great way to do it
      • foigus
        Bit_: aamporter queries Adobe. For example, aamporter says "I have this .ccp file that says that it installs Photoshop CC 2015--do you have any updates for that 'channel' of software?" Adobe responds "The Photoshop CC 2015 update channel includes Photoshop CC 2015 15.2.2 and Camera RAW 9.3.3".
      • Bit_
        aamporter querys Adobe directly?????? THAT's what I wanted to know.
      • Orphis_
        Nick_ZWG: Then I need to create a pkg that runs the script
      • Bit_
        I thought, that aamporter parses only the content of the .ccp file (where you can see all the product-updates inside
      • so I thought, that I had to use CCP again to recreate updated .ccp files and reparse them qith aamporter
      • tvsutton
        The --build-product-plist task is a one-time thing you do per installer
      • Nick_ZWG
        Orphis_: Right, or find someone else who has done so already.
      • Orphis_
        Nick_ZWG: Looking for that right now :)
      • Bit_
        hmmm... so how can I recreate and update the update-packages for munki?
      • just rerun aamporter on the product-plists --minkiimport ?????
      • that's magic
      • and it'll reimport into munki newer update-packages? WOW!
      • I have to try this tomorrow. It's almost midnight here
      • tvsutton
        I do a quick demo of it as part of my MacSysAdmin 2015 talk
      • Bit_
        I've seen (5 times) :) your presentation form macadmins.se :)
      • tvsutton
      • Bit_
        yes, this one!
      • tvsutton
        Ok - I know I went through it fast, but that's really all there is
      • Bit_
        I've seen this. But it was not clear how to update the updates
      • if ever there were new updates
      • tvsutton
        Just re-run aamporter with the same list of products you gave it last time
      • Bit_
        WOW!
      • you're a magician!
      • foigus
        (Harry)
      • Bit_
        Tim Potter
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      • Nick_ZWG
        urawzrdarry
      • Bit_
        Thanks tvsutton !
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      • so just have to re-run aamporter --build-product-plist blaCC.ccp --munki-update-for blaCC ?
      • and it'll make new plists which I reimport with munkiimport_cc_installers.py ?
      • and munki will get NEW update-packages?
      • that's magic. I'll try tomoroow @ work!
      • any news on managing AcrobatDC like this?
      • tvsutton: sorry to disturb you again. There's a much more important question: How can I get the Adobe CC Desktop App into Munki if there's a new version?
      • building a pacakge containing only the Core components with CCP works, but it itsn't recognised with aamporter
      • foigus
        That one you might have to just build with CCP
      • Bit_
        you can't
      • foigus
        If you want an updated CCDA, just build a pkg with no application payload in CCP
      • Nick_ZWG
        aamporter is to provide updates to Adobe products
      • Bit_
        you could build a pacakge which contains only the "Core Compnents" This one MIGHT contain the Adobe CC Desktop App. But aamporter refuses it.
      • Nick_ZWG
        aamporter doesn't need to worry about that
      • You could just import it directly into Munki.
      • Bit_
        how that?
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      • Nick_ZWG
        The package you produce from CCP that has only "Core Components" can be imported directly into Munki. aamporter won't find updates for it, because it's not really a "CC" product
      • it's more of a side effect
      • Bit_
        ah - you mean, my "Core Components" pgk? using munkiimport directly?
      • Nick_ZWG
        Yep.
      • Bit_
        WOW!
      • I'll try that
      • Nick_ZWG
        Aamporter is a way to incorporate updates from Adobe's normal update channels into munki without having to rebuild them via CCP each time.
      • aamporter isn't necessary to import Adobe CC packages into Munki at all.
      • Bit_
        I was just wondering, why munkiimport_cc_installers refuses this pkg
      • no, it's not necessary, but it helps a lot because it makes batch import.
      • Nick_ZWG
        Just guessing here, but my guess is that it doesn't follow the same structure as other CC packages.
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      • Bit_
        yup - THAT message is popping up
      • foigus
        "Core components" pretty much the "stuff" that aamporter avoids packaging in the first place.
      • Bit_
        I'm even not sure, if this "Core omponents" pkg contains the Adobe CCDesktop App
      • foigus
        It does, that's part of the core components
      • But one of the advantages of aamporter is that you don't need to include that in every single update pkg that comes out of aamporter
      • (it is included with every. single. update pkg that comes out of CCP)
      • Bit_
        or should I bettter download the CC Desktop app directly and import this one in munki?
      • foigus
        I'd create a new CCP pkg that doesn't include any applications. Import that pkg into Munki.
      • Bit_
        WAT? So, if I build an update-pkg for Bride (which contains Camaer-RAW, etc..) it'll contain a newer Adobe CC Desktop App?
      • foigus
        yes
      • Bit_
        ^^ yes, that's waht I menat with "core components" pkg
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      • Thanks, I'll try tomorrow. Have a nice night (or day... wherever you are on our small planet) :)
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