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      • egomez
        Thought so
      • Are you back at work?
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      • tvsutton
        In Ex Machina, the protagonist breaks in and hacks on a security system using Python, and magically does it using only 'import sys'
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      • Yes, although I'm now physically going to an Apple Store, like an animal
      • egomez
        I have some huge problems with that movie, especially the end.
      • s/animal/peasant
      • tvsutton
        s/animal/consumer/g
      • foigus
        Allister: Did you have a duti file?
      • s/animal/unwashed masses
      • tvsutton
        I think any other ending would have worsened the movie
      • Reminds me a lot of the Cube movie
      • Allister
        foigus: I'm point duti at one, yes
      • foigus
        Something specific for 2016?
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      • Allister
        more like it barked at me about ones it felt were invalid in my image
      • so UTI ALL roles: com.apple.mail.email public.vcard public.contact com.apple.ical.ics
      • foigus
        I'm not entirely sure if it's possible for duti to tell the difference...
      • Allister
        and scheme com.microsoft.outlookmailto
      • just to say it barked at com.microsoft.outlook14.email-message, entourage, ics.event, com.microsoft.outlook14.icalendar, com.microsoft.entourage.icalendar, etc
      • foigus
        Yeah, those are...
      • Should be outlook15 now
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      • hfike
        well crap... "9.1.1 (461)" is not greater than "9.1 (441)"
      • Allister
        well the #1 thing I was gunning for is default mailto: links
      • if folks need it and tell me it's tehBroked I'll fix
      • hfike: unpossible
      • foigus
        hfike: 9.1.1461 < 9.1441
      • I _think_ that's how Munki does it, dropping non-numerics
      • hfike
        and "9.1.1f461" is not greater than "9.1f441"
      • foigus
        again dropping the "f"
      • dgknuth
        ugh
      • usb: why you no want to format this stupid USB disk?
      • hfike
        welp...that camera raw update has issues then
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      • gonna have to use a hash
      • foigus
        eek
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      • bruienne
        morning
      • CMGeorge
        That it is.
      • Unfortunately. :)
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      • foigus
        hfike: What's the CFBundleLongVersionString for that Camera RAW?
      • 9.1 (441) is:
      • "9.1, \\U00a9 2015 Adobe Systems Incorporated";
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      • hfike
      • foigus
        defaults read "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-Ins/CC/File Formats/Camera Raw.plugin/Contents/Info"
      • hfike
        no long version created by makepkginfo
      • foigus
        makepkginfo only pulls the sensible keys
      • You may be able to tell it to use a different key, even one it doesn't pull?
      • As long as you flesh it out in the pkginfo?
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      • hfike
        I just added the info.plist to that gist
      • <key>CFBundleLongVersionString</key>
      • <string>9.1, © 2015 Adobe Systems Incorporated</string>
      • oh wait...
      • that is 941 still
      • pimpind
        anyone use device configuration for ipad management?
      • do you know if it support find my ipad?
      • Allister
        support?
      • pimpind
        the way we have it setup, is a user checks out an ipad and it a fresh install
      • the user can then add their itunes account
      • and use the ipad like it is their own device
      • when they return it, it wipes all their info off and resets it basically to a fresh install
      • Allister
        yup, it'll be activation locked to them unless you supervise it first
      • hfike
        there we go: <key>CFBundleLongVersionString</key>
      • <string>9.1.1, © 2015 Adobe Systems Incorporated</string>
      • pimpind
        right they are supervised
      • we have it setup where the user can do w/e they want with it, add their itunes accoutn etc...
      • but when we get them back we are able to wipe them
      • but the library is now asking if we can enable find my ipad
      • CMGeorge
        You want an MDM that supports geolocation.
      • pimpind
        but i think that options wont work since the user who checks it out has the ability to turn it on or off
      • Allister
        in some cases, yes
      • pimpind
        CMGeorge yea we dont have anything like that
      • Allister
        if you want the end user to be able to track/wipe, yes, find my i will work fine
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      • pimpind
        right they want to be able to track them after checking them out
      • Allister
        you just need to have them turn it off before returning, or you can put it in DFU mode when wiping
      • CMGeorge
        I believe the one built into Server does... if you want a free one that isn't Server, try Meraki.
      • Allister
        no longer free, but
      • CMGeorge
        Meraki isn't free anymore?
      • Allister
        nope
      • there are also tokens that you can generate to remove activation lock with MDM as well, but that requires forethought/an MDM
      • CMGeorge
        Oooh.... I must've missed that. Good thing I migrated off of it.
      • Ahh... free for up to 100 devices. Still good for a small scale deployment.
      • fuzzylogiq
        anyone know off the top of their head if launchd scans the LA/LD folders recursively?
      • Allister
        scans?
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      • CMGeorge
        But yeah, "find my iPad"/"find my iPhone" is really a service targeted at the end user, not really intended for the organization to try and track down the devices. MDM with geolocation is what you definitely want.
      • fuzzylogiq
        well loads things from
      • ie. can you move one into a Disabled folder within the folder
      • (i just can't be bothered to reboot)
      • Allister
        uh launchctl unload?
      • -w makes it persistent
      • direct file manipulation considered harmful
      • bruienne
        agreed
      • launchctl is your friend
      • fuzzylogiq
        oh so -w and it won't try to reload on reboot
      • Allister
        yessir
      • fuzzylogiq
        i feel dumb. i knew you could do the opposite for load so...bah.
      • thanks :)
      • CMGeorge
        pimpind: Also remember (and remind your library staff) that anything you use to try and find the devices is only going to be so-so if you don't have the iPads with cellular capability, as they'll depend on wi-fi along for geolocation, which is only marginally accurate (and useless if the device isn't on wi-fi).
      • Allister
        no prob
      • CMGeorge
        Library staff often times have the mistaken impression that they can just turn on an app and locate a device down to a square foot location... it doesn't work that way. :)
      • NexusT
        Does anyone know if a USB Ethernet adapter will work for netbooting a Gen1 mabook Air?
      • foigus
        What brand of USB->Ethernet
      • NexusT
        Apple brand.
      • foigus
        Should
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      • hfike: Thinking it still won't work since 9.12015 > 9.1.12015
      • NexusT
        Well im going to find out for sure in a few hours. just curious if anyone else had done it.
      • Allister
        gen1? Like, with the flipdown door?
      • hfike
        foigus yeah, comparing all the keys, doesn't look like there is anything useful
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      • CMGeorge
        Aauuuggghh.... I hate this having to break myself of habits/learned behaviors in the transition from one Mac management system to another. (Moving from Munki to Casper.)
      • Allister
      • btw, looking to hire for my team if anyone's interested https://career4.successfactors.com/sfcareer/job...
      • we're moving from casper to munki ;)
      • hfike
        what is the easies method to convert 9.1.1, © 2015 Adobe Systems Incorporated to pkginfo happy text
      • i feel like munki can do it, but don't remember how. I've used it to on scripts before
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      • Allister
        'happy text', well put
      • foigus
        hfike: Well, getting into nasty hacks...
      • You could overwrite what's in the plist
      • postinstall_script, but...that feels icky
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      • Is this mainly for labs?
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      • Places where you aren't combatting others updating?
      • hfike
        foigus all over
      • i'm going to md5 it...i've already told people to not update themselves :)
      • hope they fix it in the next version
      • tvsutton
        hfike: Is your issue just getting the 9.1.1 version out to clients?
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      • hfike
        yeah, since 9.1.1 isn't showing up as a newer update
      • as compared to 9.1
      • via munki
      • tvsutton
        But those two updates install different .db files, so if your 9.1.1 update has 9.1.1 as its version, Munki should try to install that...
      • foigus
        Because the nice folks at Adobe say "9.1 Copyright 2015", which I'm reasonably sure is viewed as 9.12015 by Munki
      • hfike
        ah...yeah...i switched to the installs array from db to /Library/Application\ Support/Adobe/Plug-Ins/CC/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw.plugin ...actually did that to play nice with people who update themselves
      • so...i guess in the end i can just rely on the db...thanks tvsutton
      • foigus
        But Adobe db or md5 hash, it's depending on the verification of a unique file within the 9.1.1 update, so either should be valid