##osx-server

looks good, it is now pulling the catalogs

hm I think it's crashing somewhere else now

heh Jul 29 2015 16:31:20 -0500 Apple Software Update install of iTunes-12.2.1: FAILED for unknown reason

wonderful

We do not tolerate failure in this organization

that could very well be my fault

Off with his head!

may not be my fault

that catalog doesn't look right

unless apple suddenly removed the seed part

In this corner, it's Munki bootstrap trying to bind to AD, in this corner it's Domain Controller replication. Who will win?

huh

that catalog is right.

egomez: For some definition of "right"

It will be right after the final release.

But _right_ now, there will be no 10.11 beta updates in that catalog.

Bootstrap wins! raaah! raaaah!

Wonder how that catalog got set then, because I'm not setting it.

Is that part of your fix? I didn't look at the commit.

Nope.

I wonder if the --clear-catalog is stupidly changing it to the official one.

Chances are yes.

I believe it is set to the seed/beta/etc catalog after manually running App Store

Alright then I'll need to set the catalog for now prior to munkibootstrap

I can live with that.

back to the original python crash

I know this is off topic but has anyone here used owncloud before ?

gneagle: https://gist.github.com/erikng/6ae1c59e69d6bc6a...

Now this error after setting a catalog

It's the comma at the end of line 1055

Huh. What would that syntax do? Turn the list into a tuple wrapping a list?

yup

Can see how subprocess would be confused.

Personally I think that should be a syntax error

I think tuples should be required to be wrapped in ()

Agreed.

Tell keeleysam to bug Guido :)

Too late now

He'll probably say "upgrade to 3!"

Probably tons of code that rely on that

Yeah

That too

2.7 will be supported long enough that y'all can just skip 3 and go to 4

heh

I'll wait for Python X

the one that removes all of the features but adds good hardware acceleration?

Maybe Python XY and Python XX

Psh. I've skiped straight past the last version of Python to Qython.

*skipped

I thought the last version of Python was SpamALot

:)

Python 3 is really great imo

I enjoy it far more than 2.7

natewalck: I believe it. There are some really sweet modules / additions to the core.

async and all the other fun

the batteries they include are far nicer

But I'm just not willing to put investment into it for doing things with OS X.

indeed. I am writing stuff that is going on Cent

or ubuntu

but to be honest, they also have outdated Python

For most apps that are not run by a user, virtualenvs are clearly the answer

is there a quick console command to re-partition the primary drive and format (ie clear/format the drive to remove everything)?

gneagle: Alternate though, diving back into it - that function obviously sets up a shared object ... wonder if I can call the functions it does / logic it does - create the object intentionally.

*thought

SinTaX98: The primary drive? The one you're booted off of?

"primary" has little meaning

booted off of USB drive, just need to clear the internal drive's data (will re-image later)

SinTaX98: You want to use diskutil

SinTaX98: Oh. You could do a diskutil reformat of the drive to a single HFS+ partition.

That would be quick and wipe it.

ahh, maybe diskutil erasedisk ? :)

gneagle: Oh man. StrictSecurityPolicy::InitializeProcessGlobalATSState has an exclusion for all bundle ids starting with com.apple.

Apple is not beholden to its own rules.

Is Python.app org.python?

Probably

org.python.python

So there's another escape route...

still going eh

Hmm. Also.

Nah, just stirring the ashes of the campfire

It looks like it does a path check against /System ...

I wonder if we're getting penalized for just using /usr/bin/python

I wonder if we did the full /System/Library/... path

Easy test

Well, it would be easy for me at home. I didn't bring my VM to work :)

frogor: ahh why not :)

heheh

frogor: there should be cloud synced binary diffs of vms for that purpose only

But I don't think StrictSecurityPolicy::InitializeProcessGlobalATSState "knows" the process was launched from /usr/bin/python

It uses CFBundleCopyExecutableURL and then runs CFURLCopyFIleSystemPath on it and CFStringHASPrefix("/System/") is wrapped around the message regarding ATS APIs.

Like you have to fail that check to get that message.

But looking more at it, looks more like it's just for triggering the message.

Like it would still happen

It's just you only get warned if it's not one of Apple's apps

I expect a write up

gneagle: Yeah, not sure. That's one of the drawbacks to the pseudo code in Hopper is that it shows you the exact register, but doesn't have visible aliases for the various names of a single register.

Mutiple registers access the same space, just different bit widths.

and the Python.app bundle is definitely under /System

So the flow isn't very easy to read

frogor: AL AH AX EAX RAX etc?

yeah, all that