It's always been a mystery to me how exactly /usr/bin/python exposes itself to the system as Python.app
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gneagle
I encourage others to poke at this; I myself will not be able to poke at it again until tomorrow AM.
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(a test worth doing should anyone have the time -- build a Cocoa-Python application using the NSURL methods and make the appropriate mods to its Info.plist)
Good night, all
tvsutton
night gneagle
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bruienne
later gneagle
tvsutton
I'm out as well, 'night
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bruienne
no, wait! I was gonna make espresso!
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mosen
1 for me please
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bruienne
hmm
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there's CFNETWORK_DIAGNOSTICS to set for debugging ATS
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natewalck
tvsutton: bruienne Yeaaaaa
they done went and broke http for us
mosen
hey nate
natewalck
how goes it mosen
mosen
took one day off, place is on fire
eholtam_
thanks mosen
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tvsutton
bruienne: yeah, you can set that up to 3 even
I will try Greg's suggested test using Imagr tomorrow morning. Have to get up at 5, so I'm turning in early.
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jaharmi
has the version of system python been updated at all?
gneagle
In ElCap?
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2.7.6 as of DP4
House
I've got a shell script that emails on error, it works at commandline but not when run from a launchd. can anyone point me in the right direction? I get "Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job" in syslog when it's run from launchd
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frogor
jaharmi: I wish. 2.7.9+ would be nice.
jaharmi
frogor: check DP5 then
.10
frogor
You're kidding.
Seriously?
gneagle: Hope. Hope in the desert.
jaharmi
frogor: listen, I never kid.
jaharmi kids
frogor: he fits the stillsuit desert-fashion, as if he was born to it.
frogor
hah
Love Dune.
jaharmi
frogor: all of my computers have dune names
frogor: helped somewhat by a combination of the dune encyclopedia and the internet
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natewalck
jaharmi: gneagle Python 2.7.10 on Beta 5
too late
;(
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mosen
maybe python 3 for the gold master?
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natewalck
please no
mosen
hehehe
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keeleysam
woot woot
now i will pretend that applecare did something for me
natewalck
keeleysam: oh?
keeleysam
openssl is still 0.9.8 though
natewalck
ha
keeleysam
2.7.10 is very nice though
i've emailed them every day, they were actively making justifications with engineering
natewalck
that means SNI for urllib
yes?
keeleysam
yes
natewalck
sweeet ;)
no need to ship requests anymore
keeleysam
the entire SSL module is backported from python 3.4
well.....
requests makes using client certs a lot easier
natewalck
indeed
I like requests better than urllib hands down
keeleysam
honestly i thought that openssl would be updated before python
now i just have to keep emailing them every day about that
frogor
Since Apple is maintaining this branch of python for OS X
Maybe they can add the ATS keys into Python.app Info.plist while they're updating it ...
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keeleysam
we just really need a horrible, non patchable zero day for openssl 0.9.8 on january first
frogor
keeleysam: Get right one that
*on
gneagle
Anybody got a link to VMWare Tools that can be installed on El Cap? The ones with Fusion 7.2 try to install to /sbin...
keeleysam
gneagle upgrade installs!
gneagle
Or do I have to get the Technology Preview
frogor
gneagle: I'm using the Technical Preview. I'll see what it does.
About 15 minutes remaining on the 10.11 install.
gneagle
keeleysam: That means starting over
keeleysam
frogor the disappointing part is that redhat will be backporting any security patches to openssl 0.9.8 because RHEL5 uses it and is supported until 2017
frogor
gneagle: Reboot into recovery, disable SIP - then let it ?
keeleysam
and i'm sure apple would rather use those patches then spend the time to replace 0.9.8 with a modern version