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Cue in @gregneagle https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/discussion....

I'm guessing with the lack of optical drives in shipping Macs, enterprise deployment of Toast isn'

t as important as just staying alive and paying the bills.

@gneagle Ya tell me about it, Roxio/Corel/Pinnacle was like "whatever"...one of them helped sort through the pig shit, thankfully.

This http://www.theonion.com/articles/rc-cola-celebr... except with disk burning software

hah

Apparently designers still rely on it for creating menus. May as well point them to QuarkXPress 2015

*ducking

I'm already getting DMs in Twitter asking "Why not kill the processes first" <facepalm>

Because. Whatever.

donmontalvo: I remember working Mac retail when everyone was waiting patiently for Quark to be upgraded and watching Adobe swoop in and destroy

aanklewicz: For disk burning there is no "swoop in", there's just "will the last person doing it please turn out the lights?"

gneagle_: I'm more than okay with it. I also remember when Toast was a must have for Mac owners. *shakes cane at children*

aanklewicz: heh I also remember the quark exodus

Sure. But why spend any time developing new versions? Just keep the current one available for purchase...

It's not a growth market!

I imagine you want to keep it alive when apple kills functionality with an OS update, but if they're actively adding features, they're throwing away money

I wish we could wean them off Toast, but they're hell bent on keeping it on life support

Toast Titanium 12 was released last summer with, yes, new features.

"New! Record from your screen with Live Screen Capture"

"New! Burn HD videos on standard DVDs"

oh right, its turning into a behemoth like nero did

bundling functionality thats only barely associated with disc burning

Ooo! Screen recording! That's a feature I've been wanting in Toast for a long time </sarcasm>

QuarkXPress was great back in 3.2 days. So good that Pagemaker was a big joke. Then InDesign took over. Now InDesign is bloated crap, and QuarkXPress 2015 is out. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

donmontalvo: you mean iOS 3?

@natewalck how old were you in 1993?

Was @keeleysam even born then?

I'm hoping that's the last of Toast

Ah, that's funny. I just deployed Toast 12 a few weeks ago.

Wait. Wat? How?

tvsutton you might want to help the poor fellow who emailed MacE

donmontalvo: 10

@macgirl84 that poor fellow is why I posted to JAMF Nation ;)

@macgirl84 he is linking back to the JAMF Nation article. :D

Pretty sure my toast licensing pkg is just a plist I copy to /L/P/

@tsutton Please say it ain't so...or I'll jump out of this 1st story window.

This? http://donmontalvo.com/jamf/jamfnation/toast-ti...

No

That's not a plist

com.roxio.Toast has at least one key that's a data type - Rox is one, and in my case R2D2 and R2D212

Ya, I can see that. I'm not as stupid as I look. :) The Roxio engineer told me that's the license file.

OMG

Toast 10 was the same for me.

why are people still using toast in 2015?!

For older Toast versions we had Rox.dat

ldooks: We barely use it, but we still have people who actually burn discs for video projects

jeebus

blu-rays more often now

@ldooks What @tsutton said

*or @tvsutton

Even just a few years ago, festivals still often just used the lowest common denominator of screener DVDs

But there's GOT to be another tool they can use, no? :.(

got that cam quality torrent doe

bruienne about?

DialsMavis I think he's been away for a while

thanks macgirl84.

!seen bruienne

[d__d] seen bruienne

Yes, I saw bruienne 2 hours ago.

bruienne said: "kid pickup time already.. bbiab"

hah

'nuff said

hiya Dials

yo mo'!

Ok hasta la pasta...

btw, macgirl84, watched your entertaining MacAdminPSU presentation "Baremetal VSphere Mac Minis"

never thought a talk on that topic could be so damned entertaining

…but you managed to do it

back later

DialsMavis: I was sick as a dog!

I'm glad it was entertaining after the fact, I was doing my best to stay vertical and not keep talking past my slides ;_;

and then poor rtrouton ended up cohosting the Q&A

that reminds me, I need to start working on my talks for this year =|

yeah, you were all "why don't we give Rich a mic" "yeah feel free to come grab a mic, Rich"

!

I think you said "pink screen of death" about 20 times

I should watch it again, I was so sick

heh

I'm sad the "oh wow, everything is yellow" got cut out of my talk

the VGA adapter in the room was bad

I decided cyan blue was better than yellow