##osx-server

sorry it's not the collecting that is the issue, if I really want I can just do that through ARD. It is the fact that the data either has to be effectively collected and stored (from however the heck apple stores that data) from the database on the local machine before it is destroyed on restart, or the data has to remain in tact over restarts. I was trying to keep the data in tact, but that isn't possible as far as I can see with my version of

deepfreeze

That's stupid.

Well actually, we only ever had thaw drives, partitions, not individual folders.

Yeah, it's a bit annoying, I'll probably just have to get this - http://www.deepfreeze.com.au/dfcloud.html#Usage

I don't know enough about application usage collection, it comes in my JAMF Software Casper Suite.

iterating over nested dicts and lists in python is quite Inception-like I have to say

ahh well, tbridge is probably right, do they really need it? probably not I guess

after a few levels the code just read o_O

alarmmm: Do tell more

ooo, Elastic Search, Logstash, Kibana?

ELK FTW

and other three-letter acronyms

ELK hunter2

zomg Flask

such wow

bruienne ELK yep

django?

mosen: different python web templating engine

but yeah

similar

just tinkering with Jinja2

i thought about using elasticsearch with pretty much everything

which Salt and Ansible use as well

yeah I've only used jinja through salt

yeah ES can be used for all tons of stuff

mosen: ah right you use Salt

yep

have to get used to the slightly reduced feature set vs. full python

can't just get the type of a n object

mapping, iterable etc

I'm the lone salt osx guy

I am planning on doing more with it

just need the time =\

jinja seems pretty good but usage in salt is limited

yeah variable replacement etc

Flask uses it heavily for html templating

i didnt realise you dont get full python language

but in salt its pretty much if conditions and dict.get

yeah you get all that

but I was trying to use isinstance() and that bombed

you can write your own filters if you need to, but I got it done using built in tests

I feel like such a n00b asking this but, can anyone recommend a good company to register a domain name with? I've never actually had to do this before.

Where are ypu again Dials?

you

sorry, I'm in australia flip047

but I'd like to register a .com & .com.au domain

ahh ok, I was going to say if just .com I have found dyn to be fantastic

hrmm

thanks anyway

I have also just registered a few domains with GoDaddy. Their interface is super easy to use, but I am having a little trouble transferring an au domain to them, probably nothing on their end though

(I'm Aus too

oh ok cool. that's right, you and morgsdaly are in QLD yeah?

yah

yeah I've been recommended godaddy

they seem to be one of the cheapest so far

I read some reviews about GoDaddy which made me a little uneasy, primarily things about what it's owners values are and how that might be reflected in the company, but I have gone with them anyway. I can't give a proper recommendation because only just started using them but so far the interfaces are super slick and it alls seems to work very well.

GoDaddy is also the default "auto-setup" provider for a new server 2012 essentials setup so they must be half decent.

nice... when you talk of interfaces, you're talking about the web hosting interfaces?

Ahh, sorry should probably specify, I don't have any site hosting done with them, but I use them for domain management and dns management. When you register a domain with them, it comes with dns service included. I found for example, with the small company I was with, I couldn't add SRV records which I needed for office 365, and with dyn there was something else I didn't have control over, but GoDaddy has it all in a really nice little interface and

you can manage multiple domains and their DNS settings from the one area.

>.> Don't get your ssl cert from GoDaddy

That's good to know! msim, why is that?

DialsMavis - let me be clear though, I do get an uneasy feeling from GoDaddy, it seems to have a divided reputation.

Eh, heard some shaky things, and it's not really globally recognised.

hmm

oic

I've had the feeling I should cut my losses and move away from them just to be sure...

Their interface IS really good though

wow, ok. I should really consider my options very carefully by the sounds of it.

Do a lot of reading

yeah, I'm going to do some reading tonight

You're likely to find some more in-depth explanations for pros/cons around

thanks msim and flip047

DialsMavis: ventraip ?

mosen <ventraip noted>

have you experience with them mosen?

DialsMavis: no but they get a lot of recommendations

good to know!

DialsMavis: Im looking to move away from the horribleness of melbourneit

well I'll cross melbourneit off my list in that case ;-)

btw, the pints missed you last night at Hart's

aww

DialsMavis: theyre just overpriced x1000 and helpdesk is more desk than help

haha "more desk than help"

lmao

"Please do the needful"

Thank

"internet service providings"

anyone know how i might determine the device identifier (diskX) that OS X is installed on? i can't see anything in diskutil that would help me

macmacintosh: from disk utility you can click on a volume, and if the mountpoint at the bottom is /, thats the booted system

(if you dont know the volume name)