#orderofthebee

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      • shazada_
        Hi All!
      • Still see some people here
      • Thought we shifted to https://chat.orderofthebee.org but didn't see anyone there for months ;)
      • yreg
        hi Tahir
      • AFAIK communication is bridged from here to there
      • and there is no much communication going over here over the past few weeks
      • other than greetings from time to time
      • shazada_, and it looks like someone forgot to renew let's encrypt certificate
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      • shazada_
        Hi Younis, But I've seen the logs but didn't see any update there
      • So any thought about the new DevCon Alfresco is arranging in 2018 january?
      • thoughts
      • yreg
      • I assume this tweet answers your question ;-)
      • shazada_
        This answers nothing :) Alfresco only announced the Devcon
      • So my thoughts were at first: Huh they cancelled the summit/devcon cause it's 2 expensive. And they said targetting locally is better for them
      • So we started our own Bee Summit
      • and not Alfresco is starting again
      • Am I the only one thinking huh what happened? And what does it mean to the Bee Summit/Beecon.
      • MorganP
        It is indeed a little bit strange but I don't think it is a bad idea either
      • Maybe they just want a devcon every other year or something like that
      • Maybe fcorti can answer :p
      • fcorti
        Hi guys
      • Yes, I can clarify but before this I kindly ask you fora littlebit ofpatience
      • the GREAT news is that we will have an Alfresco DevCon again
      • It will happen in 2018
      • in Lisbon
      • digcat
      • fcorti
        exactly...
      • thank you Darren
      • digcat
        nw francesco, howdy
      • fcorti
        kgastaldo is defining a lot of official announcements
      • digcat
        this is good no ? means alfresco are listening to community needing/wanting a conference, question will be will it be as good or better than beecon
      • fcorti
        definitely yes!
      • shazada_
        Ofcourse it's good, but the main reason the beecon was setup cause Alfresco cared less :).
      • digcat
        indeed.
      • fcorti
        the message I hoppe (and all Alfresco hopes) the developers will get is that developers are relevant
      • yes, probabnly it is true
      • but now things are different
      • (or we try to make it different :-) )
      • shazada_
        oke it seams promising
      • haha
      • fcorti
        yes, no blind trust... but fact
      • I agree with this
      • this is a fact
      • shazada_
        but wouldn't it be greater if we combined forces ??
      • fcorti
        I was telling exactly this
      • shazada_
        I mean Beecon was arranged here by some greate people
      • fcorti
        defnitely yes
      • shazada_
        And you don't want to have 2 Devcon's the time/effort spend etc.
      • fcorti
        and we WANT to organize DevCon TOGETHER with the bees
      • no no
      • shazada_
        great good to know
      • digcat
        question will be if its all about enterprise only, how much will be true open sourdce
      • fcorti
        digicat... want do think?
      • ;-)
      • NO EE ONLY!
      • it will EE TOO, but no EE only
      • shazada_
        So who is in charge of this at Alfresco?
      • Is that Richard?
      • fcorti
        Me
      • Kristen Gastaldo
      • shazada_
        Great!
      • fcorti
        but also Richard, Ole and....
      • just to share some hidden facts
      • Mark Heath (VP of Eng @ Alfresco), Thomas De Meo (VP of PM @ Alfresco)
      • and mainly alll the executives agreed we need a DevCon again
      • Doug Donnerline too...
      • shazada_
        Nice
      • fcorti
        Of course, John Newton
      • Long story short: Alfresco is a Digital BUsiness Platform
      • Who will use a platfomr?
      • Developers, devops, architext, etc...
      • so... can we avoid to have a devCon again? NO!
      • shazada_
        So locallized sales summit for EE which was the plan and a Devcon EE + CE right?
      • fcorti
        YES
      • Devcon is NOT for sales or marketing
      • shazada_
        If that's the purpose than it can be great
      • fcorti
        this is the reason why we choose a "low budget" venue
      • shazada_
        Like in the 'good' old times haha :D
      • fcorti
        exactly... but with new content
      • again: ECM + BPM + ADF + Cloud + ... all the rest
      • the Call for papaer will be launched today or tomorrow
      • shazada_
        Sure, and the Alfresco Dev's/support will they be present or just the speakers?
      • fcorti
        you cannot imagine the internal requests we are receving from engineering to attend the event
      • shazada_
        It also was a great venue to chat/discuss matters with the Alfresco Engineers/support etc.
      • fcorti
        exactly
      • shazada_
        haha cool
      • fcorti
        and please, let us know what do you want MORE or DIFFERENT
      • we want to do this TOGETHER with community NOT against...
      • The BEECON has been great
      • in terms of success
      • organization
      • people
      • we have only to thank all the organizers
      • shazada_
        Atleast X slots for the Bees to present then I guess we're all pleased
      • digcat
        well based on content,
      • think the mix of ee and community will be factor to watch
      • fcorti
        We don't want to "leave" slots... we want to evaluate the valuable content: in or out Alfresco doesn't matter
      • digcat
        most ee partners etc, will have an ee only thing anyway wont they
      • fcorti
        the commeettee will be composed by Alfrescans AND external memebers
      • NOT only Alfrescans
      • shazada_
        In development purpose there is no difference in coding....... the only thing really different is Process services
      • Okay
      • fcorti
        and in DevCon we will have also the NEW Activiti stuff: ALL OPEN SOURCE
      • we are thinking about three tracks
      • shazada_
        :) So process services for CE as well??
      • I know in time of Jorram Activity 6.1 there was. But after that it went EE only.
      • fcorti
        of course yes... it is Activiti... Activiti New Generation is active here
      • we are thinking about three tracks
      • to get the most possibile of contributions
      • shazada_
        okay
      • fcorti
        day zero (the 16th of Jan) will be for Hackathon and Getting Started and certification event
      • low prices for everyone
      • we want the best to engage the developers... and we are trying to do our best...
      • we need your help to make it better, as usual!
      • shazada_
        Sure. Just need thoughts and comments of the Bee-leaders here ;).
      • I'm all in if it's going to work like this
      • fcorti
        Yes, looking forward to discuss, receive feedback and thoughts
      • shazada_
        What I guess would make this beecon real different is:
      • open discussions about for example the platform
      • Previous beecon we had a session about ADF, that was a start. but that wasn't an open discussion. It was already decided and was just a tell a story mode and others could ask questions
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      • fcorti
        ...interesting
      • both are interesting
      • the first... we probably need examples from the partners/customers/community
      • the second: I would like to understand more in practice some examples.
      • An ADF hackathon to develop dometjhing live?