#orderofthebee

~later tell marsbard Hey ! Mattermost seem to be the most advanced alternative. the second being Rocket.chat. I tried the last one on my server, was quiute nice too, but neither of them are close to Slack yet. Tell me your thought once you installed it :)

hi twen

~later doesn't work here :-/

luckily I am here now :-)

mattermost looks good, feels very slacklike

haven't tried rocketchat

for me anyway the content previews aren't a really compelling feature. Easy file sharing though is

mattermost seems to handle that OK in my limited testing

oh shoot.. I wasn't sure =)

about the later

booth mimick Slack interface. I think any alternative will do the same. As does Telegram too

ONe thing that is important is we select an alternative tools : does is work on Mobile device too... and is it a request to have it on mobile

telegram only 'kind of' free though?

persistence of presence across mobile is a useful feature, but I already have that with IRC and email :-P

yeah, telegram is not fully open, They explain it on the site what part is not open (at least they are open on the closed part ;) )

lol

for IRC, the persistence of presence is not a simple thing to do. it's not "built-in", you need an extra step between you and IRC. Depending of the population, it may be a difficult step to do. (I don't have irc on my mobile or tablet)

that's true, I use quassel http://quassel-irc.org/ with the core part running on an internet server

I probably need to learn that aswell, I use the webchat.freenode and there is nothing regarding persistance :P

even notification doesn't seem to work in firefox whan an update is placed.

And every now and then (couple of hours) session is ended

Probably I'm the only one having these issues :)

shazada: so I can see two plus points now for a slack-like solution, one is the ability to share files, which is a pain in IRC, the other is that it manages persistence for you and plays back the bits you missed when you log back in

yes and the multiple channels you can subscribe to

if I want to discuss INFRA stuff, there is nog orderofthebee-INFRA channel

oh there can be though

once we got approved for #orderofthebee we are allowed to have any #orderofthebee-* subchannels

I know, but it's not in the same client.

it is

okay :) cool

depends on the client - if that can handle only one IRC channel at a time...

maybe the web client makes it a bit weird to get at, not sure, IIRC it puts buttons up if you are in more than one channel

But who would use such a client...

and emoji :P, very important. Maling or chat can be harsh without the intention to be it

I have never ever seen an IRC client that could only handle a single channel :-D

lol

hey shazada, before emoji we had smileys! you know ;-)

shazada: IRC has emojis - @marsbard just used one

I have one, but then I need to switch the UI fully

lol, I like :thumsup: (Y) and many others I don't even know the shortcuts to

I'll need a cheat-sheet to learn them for the sake of IRC

+1 => thumbs-up

yeah I have also seen :thumbs: :facepalm: etc, pretty understandable

I'm still bedazzled to see the responses regarding a new tool........

I guess it was less effort to just set it up and start using it

and the super ancient <G> or <grin> that resplin favours, originally from the 80s cross atlantic bulletin boards

and after 5 months do a review.

All this time we could have been build Clustering in Alfresco Community :P

:joke:

shazada: sure it would be less effort to start using it, and fragment what is there without any real idea why. and don't forget the zombie apocalypse

I'm not married to Slack, I like Telegram ass well

or any other similar

as well

for me it has to be FOSS and self hosted

why self hosted if we could get an export?

I am all for "just do it" - when it comes to something that could actually benefit other members of the community (read: "non-members of the Order") and that isn't just about us playing with cool toys...

I would e.g. very much prefer to "just do it" and have an official Order of the Bee artifact repository, hosted by INFRA

new toys are always cool, can maybe be the bump needed :P I'm not sure I'm just saying something cause I've said everything else I guess

So we can collect and provide all the variously hosted community addons

don't forget also that freenode is known as an IRC network where FOSS tools are supported, and people sometimes log on to freenode to look for a support channel for the FOSS application they are using

You now I had an idea to create a module which get's the addon's online in alfresco, and you'll only need to restart them. Heard that for 2 years that Alfresco is busy with it

so we probably shouldn't throw the IRC Chanel away

I'm sure we can fix a Hook for slack :P

I'm sorry

lol

for any other 2016 year tool

:P

shazada: Yeah - that is one problem with Alfresco. They announce some idea and take forever to pull through

maybe this can be something for us to come-up with or develop

Or half-heartedly abandon it along the way...

It will sky-rocket or Honecom Edition

cause it's only buit-in in our Edition

so people will have to download it

yeah digcat and I were talking about a similar thing shazada, perhaps we can collaborate on it

At BeeCon I shared a Tightning Talk with Oksana about addons the community needs. Support Tools / enhanced admin console was among them and your idea would fit rightin

sure why not

Judging from the new mail thread though I reckon this might potentially be considered "overkill" or not "feasible"...

to reply or not to reply on the mailinglist

yeah - normally I would be the last to reply, but this darn vacation has me able to actually participate in those discussions early on

okay final reply for this topic

I need some coke :P

morning guys

Yo

about the addons, I'd like to propose that this addon is included in your list https://github.com/jpotts/share-site-creators

hi douglascrp hows you today

I use it, and I consider it useful and stable enough to be recommended

digcat, good

just starting my day :D

ahh nice, yes half way through mine

douglascrp: Sure - question is just: Based on what objective criteria do we put our stamp of approval on it? Just "because it is Jeff"?

no, because I consider it extremely useful

and stable

I know and I agree

really, everybody asks for this

I mean, the functionality

it has nothing to do with Jeff

I mean, I certainly have some remarks I'd like to make in regards to "clean implementation"...

IMO, alfresco should provide that as an option

ah, ok

so I think I should try to give my first steps on the addon evaluation process with this on, following your guide

I'm not upset Daniel.

My point is just about "we have no agreed process for listing and no one (apart from myself) that is comming up with concrete suggestions"

btw is Daniel here :)

douglacrp: That would be great to have a different perspective / experience report ...

another one is this https://github.com/softwareloop/uploader-plus

that you know and did a great job

improving it

shazada: Where? I don't see him...

AFaust, you did a great job

Everyone is using nicknames (me too ) so it's difficult to see who's who :)

uploader-plus is al ready accepted

the problem with uploader-plus nowadays is that Paolo is too busy to work on it

douglascrp was referring to the review of that addon - not that it needed to be reviewed...

AFaust, yes, I know

ooh

sorry

You still confuse the Honeycomb with just the addon listing

there are lots of changes already finished, tested, but not yet released

because he has to run the publish script

AFaust, no, I don't

Honeycomb included a couple of addons without waiting for them to be listed (because we couldn't get our act together)

I understand your idea

douclascrp: Sorry, I was referring to shazada

ah, ok

:D

no problem

I mis-understoud, I thought @douglascrp didn't new it's was already in the edition.