grilled-cheese: yah I played with jaasAuthenticationPlugin when writing the LM book. It works well but is non-trivial setup
however authentication at the middleware layer is almost irrelevant if you're doing end->end encryption like you should be
grilled-cheese
agreed
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jorhett
so the key management per user is the tricky and much more important stuff
grilled-cheese
I like tieing as many thing to the one common identity system as possible so with a single action accounts are updated, created, or deleted
if you accept the standard deployment document of using the openssl method, then just handwave over the middleware it’s an extra step to change the admin broker password
you can’t get around having to revoke their certificate on every server, but hopefully you’re using puppet to make that easier
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when asking the question, what’s the worst that can happen, with broker admin you could disrupt the communication bus
I’m still new to mco, but it was my understanding that while end-to-end encrypted aes payloads are supported, they were generally frowned upon
Volcane
the broker auth is almost not important at all for the 'what can someone do'
authorization lives in mco not the broker
you need to manage authorization plugins and their keys too
someone with broker credentials can gain a lot of insight into who is doing what etc on a mco+ssl network and probably do nasty DOS things etc, but they cant run commands on nodes, certainly managing access to the broker is important etc
just saying the authorization plugins are super important dont forget abt them
grilled-cheese
agreed
Since I hit a wall for a moment with JAAS, I switched to getting Jetty switched to AD
which turns out isn’t much easier
I could just turn that off, but it would be handy to have for debugging purposes when things go haywire
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the biggest payoff for me personally was getting Jolokia REST API enabled. Hawtio == easy debugging
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jorhett: so you replaced the mco stomp connector with jolokia clients?