and if your going to send data every second or sub-second you might need a point of aggregation so you can do bulk insertion
nah it's not because there's not data every second
you likely don't understand but it's okay
when someone says i get 80k every 10s they mean that; they don't mean i get 8k every second... because they don't
when you have 25 or hundreds of servers pumping every 10s on the clock it's a lot more to keep up with
as if your clocks are right; everyone's doing it at the same time
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hoover_damm: I understand what you are saying. In my case it's just bunch of stuff thats written per second, bunch for 10s, bunch for 30s and rest is for 60s and it's really much simplier for me to operate either as per minute or per second value, cause I can't reliably tell what's the real distribution
hoover_damm
right that's why maybe using telegraf to aggregate and have it insert bulk
would be good
i collect every 10s; but my switch is every 60s
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hoover_damm: but in real world it's not like that - your clock is not perfectly in sync, your network have a delay and blah blah blah
hoover_damm
my world is semi-perfect
they all have ntp on each other; my metrics are pumped through rabbitmq via sensu if it's graphite
otherwise it's telegraf
having your data go through rabbitmq makes it fun when hosts go down
:)
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hoover_damm: my world is not that perfect and I've already have graphite installation that handle some load. It's just yet another turn to look around and to see maybe I can replace whisper with something else
hoover_damm
you can absolutely replace whisper with this
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well, I'm not quite sure with that :)
hoover_damm
I used to have a 12 carbon mix with 4 relays and haproxy in front
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hoover_damm: we've got several magnitudes more load than you have
hoover_damm
the amount of data you can injest is pretty ridiculus with whisper
nah i doubt it; my lowest was 800k at one point highest was 2.1million
on a single host
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hoover_damm: we have not really standart setup
hoover_damm
btw you seem to be really acting high and mighty; you'd get a better response if you didn't come off like you were better
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on a single host we've got 4.8M per minute tops
hoover_damm: well, maybe I was just too tired to formulate the question right, sorry for that
I've just setted up a influxdb 0.13 and tried to push some data into that, using it's graphite receiver. And see that it's cpu consumption is actually 2x higher than for whisper
so I'm curious if it's influxdb's graphtie listner
or influxdb itself or I missed something in the config
hoover_damm: and well, my target idealy is something around 10M per host
10M per minute per host
with some reading
the question about ineffectiveness was from 0.9 when they've made the graphite stuff to handle the tags and implemented parsing with regexps which was slow and influxdb developers I think explicitly said that graphite's listner is not very effective
and the native interface should be much better in temrs of performance
hoover_damm
you may want to look into the enterprise product then
and talk to sales
because there is a clustering product that was removed in 0.12
that let you have more than one host for reading and writing
past a single container you need some kind of clustering
afaik there's something in open source but i haven't looked at it
and if it's something you depend on; enterprise gives you support for emergencies
better than irc
this is a /very/ slow channel
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I'm not in hurry. For now I'm not sure that influxdb is the thing I really want to use
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hoover_damm: "a clustering product that was removed in 0.12"?
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hoover_damm
ucb, well 0.13
it existed in 0.12
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ucb
right, but what is it? is it the ability to cluster instances of influxdb, or?