#influxdb

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      • Civil
        hoover_damm: eats a lot of CPU actually :)
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      • hoover_damm: 80k per second on m4.large?
      • or per minute?
      • hoover_damm
        per 10s
      • Civil, is it your graphite templates?
      • Civil
        so it's only 8k per second?
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      • hoover_damm: m?
      • hoover_damm
        no it's 80k per 10seconds; every 10s we get 80s
      • that's 480k per minute
      • Civil
        and that gaves you 8k per second avg
      • hoover_damm
        sure
      • but it's not really true
      • Civil
        anyway my target is a little bit more than that
      • hoover_damm
        i don't send data per second
      • thundering hurd scenario you know?
      • everyone barks at once
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: yeah, I understand, right
      • still good approximation
      • hoover_damm
        and if your going to send data every second or sub-second you might need a point of aggregation so you can do bulk insertion
      • nah it's not because there's not data every second
      • you likely don't understand but it's okay
      • when someone says i get 80k every 10s they mean that; they don't mean i get 8k every second... because they don't
      • when you have 25 or hundreds of servers pumping every 10s on the clock it's a lot more to keep up with
      • as if your clocks are right; everyone's doing it at the same time
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: I understand what you are saying. In my case it's just bunch of stuff thats written per second, bunch for 10s, bunch for 30s and rest is for 60s and it's really much simplier for me to operate either as per minute or per second value, cause I can't reliably tell what's the real distribution
      • hoover_damm
        right that's why maybe using telegraf to aggregate and have it insert bulk
      • would be good
      • i collect every 10s; but my switch is every 60s
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: but in real world it's not like that - your clock is not perfectly in sync, your network have a delay and blah blah blah
      • hoover_damm
        my world is semi-perfect
      • they all have ntp on each other; my metrics are pumped through rabbitmq via sensu if it's graphite
      • otherwise it's telegraf
      • having your data go through rabbitmq makes it fun when hosts go down
      • :)
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: my world is not that perfect and I've already have graphite installation that handle some load. It's just yet another turn to look around and to see maybe I can replace whisper with something else
      • hoover_damm
        you can absolutely replace whisper with this
      • Civil
        well, I'm not quite sure with that :)
      • hoover_damm
        I used to have a 12 carbon mix with 4 relays and haproxy in front
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: we've got several magnitudes more load than you have
      • hoover_damm
        the amount of data you can injest is pretty ridiculus with whisper
      • nah i doubt it; my lowest was 800k at one point highest was 2.1million
      • on a single host
      • Civil
        hoover_damm: we have not really standart setup
      • hoover_damm
        btw you seem to be really acting high and mighty; you'd get a better response if you didn't come off like you were better
      • Civil
        on a single host we've got 4.8M per minute tops
      • hoover_damm: well, maybe I was just too tired to formulate the question right, sorry for that
      • I've just setted up a influxdb 0.13 and tried to push some data into that, using it's graphite receiver. And see that it's cpu consumption is actually 2x higher than for whisper
      • so I'm curious if it's influxdb's graphtie listner
      • or influxdb itself or I missed something in the config
      • hoover_damm: and well, my target idealy is something around 10M per host
      • 10M per minute per host
      • with some reading
      • the question about ineffectiveness was from 0.9 when they've made the graphite stuff to handle the tags and implemented parsing with regexps which was slow and influxdb developers I think explicitly said that graphite's listner is not very effective
      • and the native interface should be much better in temrs of performance
      • hoover_damm
        you may want to look into the enterprise product then
      • and talk to sales
      • because there is a clustering product that was removed in 0.12
      • that let you have more than one host for reading and writing
      • past a single container you need some kind of clustering
      • afaik there's something in open source but i haven't looked at it
      • and if it's something you depend on; enterprise gives you support for emergencies
      • better than irc
      • this is a /very/ slow channel
      • Civil
        I'm not in hurry. For now I'm not sure that influxdb is the thing I really want to use
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      • ucb
        hoover_damm: "a clustering product that was removed in 0.12"?
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      • hoover_damm
        ucb, well 0.13
      • it existed in 0.12
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      • ucb
        right, but what is it? is it the ability to cluster instances of influxdb, or?
      • sztanpet
        look at the blog posts if you are interested
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