#haraka

Hey. Anyone knows if the plugins using Redis use transaction calls (multi()...exec()) a lot? I'm wondering if I could use a fork of haraka-plugin-redis to switch from node_redis to ioredis (I need redis sentinel support), would it break a lot of stuff? On my experience the most important breaking change of ioredis is how exec() returns the results

andris9: I haven't looked but I suspect the plugins most likely to do that are greylisting and the rate_limit plugins

Ok, I think I just grep through the code to see how Redis is used there

Yeah - that's all I would do.

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Something really weird is happening in #2167

I've just hit that bug on a spamtrap that I'm building.

Yet the code in plugins that I've changed to fix it hasn't been touched in 2 years...

weird

We're getting a different kind of connection pooling issue

but it *might* be us

Where is the bounce generated when something fails rcpt_to.in_host_list ?

I was looking to find the error/bounce that it would provide, but my best guess is DSN.relaying_denied() ?

cyberde: that doesn't generate a bounce

Bounce messages are only generated when you accept a message but subsequently cannot deliver it to it's destination for some reason.

In the case of something failing rcpt_to.in_host_list - the recipient will be *REJECTED* e.g. return next(DENY);

Ow yes sorry, the server does not generate a bounce, but it should return a DENY?

Yes, but there is no DENY in that plugin :$

cyberde: you're right - I think that was done so multiple plugins could run on hook_rcpt and one might accept it.

However if no hook_rcpt plugin returns next(OK), then core will defer the recipient itself.

But I don't think that's ideal personally.

_smf_ I have my own plugin DENYing it before that plugin so relaying_denied would be the ideal DSN?

Yeah

You don't have to return ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES BTW.

just return next(DENY, 'Relaying denied') is fine.

The reason I say that is because we don't advertise ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES in the EHLO response because not all plugins use the DSN module.

And core doesn't either

_smf_ Ow, I thought it made sense to use that one.

You can use it if you like. The enhanced codes might be ignored though.

It probably doesn't matter.

How do you guys run haraka in production? I'm using pm2 but it seems to screw up my environment variables...

_smf_: maybe we should make a hacktoberfest to convert core to those status codes?

cyberde: I use runit, but nobody else seems to.

I use systemd service files to run all my stuff on production

ow pm2 caches the environment variables :s

I wouldn't recommend pm2 at all.

It tries to do the cluster stuff for you, and Haraka needs to do that stuff itself.

baudehlo : It seems to run it in mode "fork" by default

Just stop using pm2.

here's a super simple example of a systemd service script to run haraka (assumes that haraka is installed as a dependency, does not use global): https://gist.github.com/andris9/966ebed641f2d77...

[13Haraka] 15SamuelGrave opened pull request #2178: #2129 - Replace all string concaternation with template literals on connection.js (06master...06refactor_connection.js) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2178

Also, it might be a good idea to add environment variables as a "config" type in haraka?

[13Haraka] 15SamuelGrave opened pull request #2179: Replace all string concaternation with template literals on plugins/data.frc533_header_checks.js file (06master...06refactor_data.rfc533_header_checks) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2179

baudehlo: I'm not sure that a hacktoberfest for that would work that well. There are a lot of DSN codes and not all of them are obvious as to which we should use.

True

[13Haraka] 15SamuelGrave opened pull request #2181: plugin/refactor_graph.js replaces all string concaternation to string templates (06master...06refactor_plugin/graph.js) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2181

anosh : environment variables in config files? Template like you mean?

yeah

We already have this working

just need to clean up the code to add to haraka

anosh Nice, would solve my issue :)

We're not running bleeding edge Haraka since we keep doing patches whenever we build, I can send you a gist of our patch

I hope I remember to start to work on that to add to Haraka

anosh if you wait long enough, I'll add it :)

lmao

So the templating patch allows you to set a default variable if there is not env var

s/not/no/

which is nice

like the docker yaml file

s/docker/docker-compose/

I need to test against all formats of files Haraka works with and make tests around those and then it'll be mergeable

anosh now we have an issue for it open so that might help to remember :) maybe someone can tag it as work in progress

[13Haraka] 15SamuelGrave opened pull request #2183: plugin/greylist.js replaces all string concaternation to template literals (06master...06refactor_plugin_greylist.js) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2183

cyberde we have an issue on main Haraka for it lmao

that didn't help me at all

I've set an alarm to remind me when I get home

thanks ;)

[13Haraka] 15msimerson closed pull request #2177: plugins/relay_acl: Replace string concatenation with string template (06master...062129/use-string-templates-relay_acl) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2177

[13Haraka] 15msimerson pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/commit/9c5d1...

13Haraka/06master 149c5d1ce 15Pedro Victor de Sousa Lima: messagestream: changes styling for es6 declaration #2175

[13Haraka] 15msimerson closed pull request #2173: Add process, transaction, SMT Response, respond.. (06master...06connection.js) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2173

[13Haraka] 15smfreegard opened pull request #2184: Fix disconnect hooks (06master...06fix_2167) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2184

Anyone willing to set up haraka on a vultr vps for a fee?

[13Haraka] 15msimerson pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/commit/ae3b4...

13Haraka/06master 14ae3b43c 15Samuel Grave: plugin/greylist.js replace string concaternation with template literals #2183

_smf_: I don't really understand why #2184 fixed things.

I don't understand why it suddenly became a problem - but #2184 prevents specific hooks being aborted by client_disconnected()

baudehlo: ^ (forgot to tag you..)

Yeah so strange.

There's been far too many changes for me to work out the diffs between the two versions.

It could be related to the move to haraka-constants etc.

But as it stands - the current npm version was horribly broken for me.

Is there a discord grouo for this?

Group*

[13Haraka] 15msimerson closed pull request #2179: Replace all string concaternation with template literals on plugins/data.frc533_header_checks.js file (06master...06refactor_data.rfc533_header_checks) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2179

sal27 nope

Ok thanks, where can i go to hire someone witha good understanding of haraka,

Everywhere ive looked people have no idea what im talking about

Any help is appreciated

sal27: I don't know that there's place you'll find freelance haraka experts. It's usually people scratching their own itches and ready to modify/support their own install for the company they work for.

[13Haraka] 15msimerson pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/commit/2e649...

13Haraka/06master 142e649fc 15Samuel Grave: Replace string concaternation with template literals on connection.js #2178

you can always create issues and attach $ to them with bountysource as described on https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/wiki/Contributing

and when someone has spare cycles, it might motivate them

Thanks

[13Haraka] 15msimerson pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/commit/73f56...

13Haraka/06master 1473f5694 15Samuel Grave: graph.js: replace string concaternation to template literals #2181

[13Haraka] 15msimerson opened pull request #2185: replace plugins/graph with haraka-plugin-graph (06master...06npm-graph) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2185

i'm still at work

but wfh tomorrow

[13Haraka] 15stefanlw opened pull request #2186: replace concatenated strings with template literals in plugins/toobus… (06master...06toobusy) 02https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2186

sal27: what exactly do you want?

I don't really have any spare cycles though

_smf_: i need help setting up haraka on a vultr vps, i have a web app i would like to use it with

dsal27: why do you need Haraka specifically?

I plan to make my platform free, so i expect huge volumes of email happening

Heard haraka is the best with high volumes

dsal27 Probably true as it is build on top of nodejs

Yea I've done alot of research, actually had a smtp up and running but a dev i worked with accidentally deleted the vps it was on, so I'm in a bit of a pickle, fully made php web app for email with no smtp

Waa haraka previously

dsal27 Setting up Haraka is easy, but I assume that he build some kind of plugins to work with your web app and if you don't have those, than you have an empty server.

The app accepts credentials simular to mailjet and such

If it can accept most smtp's assuming all the info is provided do you think a custom plugin would still be needed?

why not use nodemailer?

sounds like a whole lot of complexity for nothing

Thanks anosh ill check that out

It is an smtp server ?