#haraka

hello

iojs 2.0 is out :O

i'm getting weird error with npm install when i try with iojs o=

anyone tried the new version? tho i think it comes from npm but its weird

ok i guess i should wait for their fixes xD

seems that there is abug comiling some native c library when you make the upgrade

That wouldn't surprise me.

Why don't you gist the output.

I suspect node-syslog won't compile.

It's not really needed any more anyway.

i rebooted but i saw the same error wait i should still have it open

but its a pb with node-gyp it was written

passing 2 args instead of 4

its reported already it seems

i didn't get the exam error he had

and for me it was on hiredis and iconv

but on this one they say they'll have a proposal on the next version so i guess i'll wait to see there D=

tho when i did just a npm install iconv on another directory

it was working fine, but installed the version 2.0.7

it was trying to install the 2.0.6 on the old directory

guess there is some dependency somewhere

xD "Oh, you'll love io.js 3.0 in a couple of weeks then."

mmmh (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA verify=FAIL);

this is because i self signed my certificate right?

in the received header in haraka =o

DarkSorrow: probably.

Actually - that means that the client couldn't be verified.

Which if it was an MUA - that's expected as clients don't typically present client TLS certificates.

Whereas other MTAs do.

i just sent it with outlook =o

tho

i should check with some other code i guess

but when i first send a mail from outlook it was asking me to validate my certificate

and somehow gave me a warning

guess gotta pay the mafia certiciate as some guy said a long time ago in a meeting xD

DarkSorrow: https://www.namecheap.com/security/ssl-certific...

That's what I use - cheeeeeep cheeeeeep.

thanks i'll take a look works with companies right?

http://www.startssl.com/?app=40 cause i was checking them

DarkSorrow: compaines?

sorry yeah but yeah ir ead =p

it was just the other ssl website i showed you the less expensive one are not for a company but for an individual person

but its fine anyway, i know my boss has a certification from digicert

for the main website

i was just looking for certs for the haraka servers

but he said he'll take some extension there anyway D=

DarkSorrow: if you have a wildcard certificate for your website, then you can use that for your SMTP servers too.

morning

morning

morning

its raining :(

dark

:o?

is there any way to access attachments in Haraka plugins ? or there is an object for attachments like BodyObject

thezeroth: https://github.com/baudehlo/Haraka/blob/master/...

See transaction.attachment_hooks

_smf_: cool :)

If you're after text/* parts though. you can get them via connection.transaction.body[.children]

_smf_: just want to know, I can access them in queue plugins and create new mail json object sort of

?

No; the transaction hooks run as the message comes in.

e.g. as the message is parsed

It really depends what you want to do.

Creating a JSON object with all the binary data also isn't going to work too well.

_smf_: I want to put the arrived email in to structured json with all attachments and stuff then pass that json obj to say rabbitmq

thezeroth: but JSON doesn't support binary data?

_smf_: my attempt will be to upload that image on s3 and keep the link in my json object

Then the attachment hooks are what you need.

_smf_: is there any doc about what all hooks are there and what they do

Use then to create the S3 files and store the metadata e.g. filename, content-type, content-disposition, content-transfter-encoding and S3 location in transaction.notes.

thezeroth: you'll have to read everything in the docs/* directory on Github

_smf_: digging the same dir :)

generally - there is one hook per SMTP command and the hooks fire in a logical order based on an SMTP transaction.

understood thanks :)

_smf_: give me some hit please, so as I said I have to make that object so I can create plugin which runs before Queues, like with data.headers ? and if yes how do I pass the new object forward to queue ?

thezeroth: you'd build your structure inside a transaction note e.g. transaction.notes.json_obj = {}; and you can build up the structure as you go e.g. attachment_hooks etc. and then you simply take the object that you built and then in hook_queue you'd do something like var json = JSON.stringify(connection.transaction.notes.json_obj); and then pass the output to RabbitMQ or whatever.

That connection.notes, connection.transaction.notes structures are specifically designed with the need in mind that you'd want to share data between plugins.

_smf_: awesomeness I love this architecture of Haraka :)

thezeroth: just a word of warning with the attachment_hooks; they're a bit 'tricky' to work with

I suggest you have a look at the attachment plugin as to how I handle them there.

_smf_: sure will do that :)

Basically - you have have a hook_data_post function that waits for all of the attachment_hooks to complete.

Otherwise; what will happen is that Haraka will accept the message before they complete, which is bad ;-)

any comments on the Gruntfile PR?

_smf_: yeah was reading that part in attachments plugins

ultimatt2: not from me. baudehlo is going to be busy for the next week and a half as he has visitors.

_smf_: and just to make sure I dont face the json binary problem I will put that object in local db and pass the reference by rabbit mq

thezeroth: why don't you just put the whole message in raw format inside the JSON?

_smf_: you mean base64 and stuff ?

e.g. let whatever you're sending it to do the decoding.

Yeah

_smf_: thats the actual plan just before I send the real raw message to the receive I want to put this parts in json obj like in attachements array I will have objects with meta info of file + the base64 of the data if I get that done then I dont need db at all

because My receiver is in golang and goland dont have anything good to parse raw emails

golang*

I'm surprised.

You'd think someone would hve written something by now for go.

http://golang.org/pkg/net/mail/#ReadMessage ??

_smf_: that will just give you headers and body is till raw

I was eating my head entire day on that

but writing the entire body parser which will give me separate parts is not possible for now no time in hand

_smf_: node has mailparser which is super

there is this https://gowalker.org/github.com/jhillyerd/go.en... but dosent support inline attachments well it just skips them

ultimatt2: yeah I saw it - not sure I have any problem with it specifically - I assume it solves some sort of problem.

C has Makefile, perl has Makefile.PL, node.js has Gruntfile

there's a zillion handy little grunt tasks on npm that automate all sorts of tasks

like the included example, of checking your deps against npm version

that's the sort of thing I'll put in the wiki for releases, "run 'grunt versioncheck' and see if any modules *should* be updated (newer != better, use judgement!)"

right

and I guess you can do "grunt publish" which would do "git tag, git push --tags, npm publish"

aye

I use grunt all over the place and have become quite fond of it

yeah then I'm down for the idea. Haven't looked at the PR itself.

We use jake here.

I guess it's the same.

OMG: https://medium.com/fear-and-coding/grunt-vs-gul...

I didn't even know jake existed

hah

I don't use it for much.

Just "jake seed" for seeding the DB.

I use grunt a *lot*

I even have my own extensions for it

(but so too does everyone that uses it much, I think)

b/c it's easy to just add some JS in the Gruntfile.js "config" file

*nod*

I'd probably use jake more if I hadn't put our "build" stuff directly into our app.

(for JS and CSS)

considering how long it's been around, jake surprisingly (to me) hasn't attracted a very large following.

the docs look pretty good, but it seems like there's more 'manual' work to be done to automate any given task

Maybe. Someone else implemented it here. Then I fired him.