#hackedu

hcwool: crap, not sure why I didn't see this earlier

I just was fooling around p5.js http://jsbin.com/nagiqe/1/edit?html,js

I'm going to take a nap now

hcwool: what curious what the p5 stuff you worked on? I think I'm going to start making the playground or wtv it's called

I drafted a few buffet items: movement, sprites, collision/overlap, points

etc

ooo coool! Would love to see those

I'm going to head home now, will check it out when I get home and probs take a nap

Hcwool, want to send me what you have so we don't repeat work?

jonl: ugh, it really isn't ready

Pretty much in note form

hcwool: ah gotcha

jonl: Do you want to jump on a partytime and coordinate it?

Hcwool, actually i think I'd also like to have something more fully formed before we think about dividing work!

thats cool jonl

Will ping you later with what i have but it might not be until tmrw

thats cool

:)

ddollar: what brings you to #hackedu?

ddollar: hey! great to see you over here :-)

ZucchiniZe: ddollar works on https://convox.com/ and him and i talked on the phone earlier today

ah

cool

man

i really do not like devise

i'm working on converting from devise to omniauth

devise eats the omniauth.

for breakfast

it kills omniauth's routes.

I never truly learned devise

should I?

it's not too complicated, just a rails plugin

i'd check it out, it's very popular

i _do not_ like it

it doesn’t look like there are any alternatives

other than omniauth

there are quiet a few

or you can implement authentication yourself

hahaha, no

ssun are you up

it's 9

so yes

oh alright

what's up?

hcwool: http://time.is/San_Francisco

i usually do :(

ah

you guys up to start the workshop right now?

wat

its a thursday

and?

homework

???????

thats for friday

do summit core teachers give homework?

yea

but I usually do the stuff they give on their second day on friday

but it's not like they can say, "this is due this day, and i will grade it that day or it is a 0"

right?

they can

but usually don’t

really? o.O grades are based on CAs and Cog Skills. no comprendo.

projects

yeah. but projects can be turned in whenever. right?

Arxenix: hey, sorry i didn't see your message earlier, was on a walk. it's nice to meet you!

not in 10th grade

zrl: Has anyone tried to sit down and make a list of "skills and knowledge that should be learned" ?

learned/practiced

we thought about doing that a while ago after another teacher recommended doing that (cc jonl), but haven't yet

you have to turn projects on time or you get all 1s for cog skills

zrl: hey, nice to meet you too.

Arxenix: \o

after each workshop we encourage leaders to run "project time", where hackers pair up and work on projects together

generally for 1 - 2 meetings

and the end of the 2nd meeting, everyone demos what they built

the idea is that skills introduced in the workshops will be reinforced then

Nice. So they should be remixing the project? or trying to build something new based on what they learned?

totally up to them, though we encourage them to build something new

cool

hmmm

not a bad idea

(granted, this varies club to club. we try to give as much autonomy as possible to club leaders)

i showed my MS students today how to take input from a user, use a button, and change the DOM's styling. I wonder what they could come up with.. with just that. hah

https://github.com/hackedu/meta/blob/master/app... is the format we followed for our summer program

let me pull up projects from the summer program to show you what people built after the 1st day

with just knowing static html and css

nice survey feedback.

thank you!

hmm, so everyone built their projects on cloud9 and their workspaces are currently spun down, so i can't link you to the projects themselves

but some of the stuff we saw:

- visual prototype of a website that generates outfits for you based on the weather

- personal websites with images

- website with bookmarks and embedded videos

one person started on a "personal awesome" site that they worked on for a few days

=)

it eventually played a different video every time you refreshed and had an embedded song

they also taught themselves css and made it look quite nice

Yeah. I'm really considering completely tossing the Khan Academy for html/css.

takes the kids so freaking long. and they end up just putzing through it.

I’ve seen that a lot of kids just try and get the solutions from their friends

yeah

there's that.

we've heard of that happening with codehs as well.

mHesby: have you checked out p5.js?

jonl's currently making a workshop with it

I haven't yet. I'm super excited about the thing hcwool is making though. the workshop

and jonl too. yeah

ah, i haven't seen hcwool's work yet

hcwool: is it in a pull request?

I think my MS students will be stoked to try it out.

ugh zrl don't look at that

lol

It's coming along nicely i think!

I'm currently rewriting it

well, amongst other things

i think html/css is nice because it immediately puts people into a playground

Agreed

👍

but i'm worried that just static websites aren't very exciting for people

But the youth of today love interactivity

packaging the html and css up into an "app" seems to be much more engaging

they are for beginners. I think.

(thank goodness for cordova)

True.

never actually used cordova

only ionic

ionic uses cordova

you saw. u.smtcs.rocks/styledoc and u.smtcs.rocks/htmldoc right?

I know

eugh... link.

I gave those two things to MS students last year. And a number of the kids went crazy and just made all types of cool things.

have you tried not giving those docs to them?

i wonder how much they could discover straight from google

hmmm

I wonder how many would have inspiration though

Totally. I do a short thing on RTFM =) And have them google up stuff.

i wonder if you could give example google queries for trying to find out stuff

and how helpful that'd be

Very helpful.

So many people don't know how to use google well.

the goal is autonomy right?

actually

indeed.

i take that back

the goal is excitement and confidence, right?

motivation = excitement + confidence in my eyes