#hackedu

I heard from someone from the medialab that they were making different skins

jonl: i remember there being a quick hack to change block colors, i can dig that out if you want.

lol, wait so this is about the credibility/professionalism of scratch?

Code_Assassin: to a high school student, basically

people don't really believe it

I have many club members, leaders, and students to complain about it

jonl: but, i mean, everyone uses extremely colorful syntax highlighters for their fancy schmancy CoffeeScript in Sublime Text. it's the same thing.

I think if students can check there pride at the door, scratch is amazing

thethirdone: yeah then it feels like a teacher telling a student to do something

even if it is only used to introduce game programming then transfer to js

you don't have to tell them to do anything. say "this is a tool you can use to program games. go for it!"

jonl: I understand your concern, and in fact I can see why Scratch is viewed in a negative light.

thethirdone: that's a really good idea

maybe it's like 2 hours

and then done

^

And here's exactly how to do the samething in JS

with examples

Or just use something like phaser right out the gate ;)

Code_Assassin: that was the initial plan

that post got a lot of attention by Scratch-ey people

Any of you guys Seymour Papert fans?

I want to put together a book club

who were all like "oh yeah this is why we aren't making Scratch look potential"

*professional

I agree with Scratch

but the problem is I don't know how to ensure that students don't backlash (and they have)

Happened at soramy's club

Maybe it's not a scratch problem

jonl: part of being a teacher is dealing with students bs yo

they use Scratch/Snap! at Berkeley and Harvard, surprisingly.

lay down ground rules quick, and pretty sure everybody will respect you

Code_Assassin, eh, we have different styles

afk, learning phaser lol

yeah, i think people will respect Scratch if someone they look up to (i.e. you) respects it

jonl: I'm not saying be a disciplinarian lol

I'm pretty sure you'll be dealing with a mature group of students anyways.

also, if you do scratch, you get the benefit of hardmath123 and his friends

who are big people in the scratch community

(aka, helping to advice on panels for it or something)

;-; unity represent 24/7 o.

JacobEdelman, I <3 that. Go hardmath123

hardmath123: Code_Assassin would you guys be down for a Seymour Papert Book club?

Overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-dFTmdX1kU

jonl: eh, i wish, but i'm gonna be gone (afk and everything) for a large chunk of the summer

afk looking at youtube link

jonl: amazing talk, thanks for sharing. Papert talks about how everyones individual experiences affects their ability/desire to learn. I couldn't agree with this more. There's personal experiences. Cultural experiences. Even the common experiences that society offers to its participants. The true challenge of educators today is in *realizing* this.

However, lessening the educational defecit/gap is much more serious than this.

You know the saying, "War is the health of the state"?

You could say the same for inequality.

@jonh @zrl have all non-coding activities for the first few days figured out on workflowy; i have a family dinner tomorrow so ill work from home and then come to galvanize on sunday to figure stuff out before Day 1!

dope, sounds great

we'll probably be here through the weekend

at the very least, i'll be working.

so don't hesitate to ping me

Sounds good!

👍

Zrl where ru?

5th floor working

Can you let me up when I pong u?

Zrl

sure

Pong

Nvm

Where on 5?

Zrl

zrl: jonl: sorry for github notifications spam; cleaning out old issues in the hackedu/website repo to be ready for the crunch this weekend

getting in sf ~11am. Should I head straight to Galvanize?

Y'all ready for team sync at 8:30?

Let's do it in partytime

maxw: yeah

I'm gonna come into the office late today, have a haircut at 12:30 near the house

Probably around 1:30

adeng, jonl?

So

Zelda so

Ark

Wtf

Keyboard

what

adeng said she's working from home, correct?

Zrl are you there?

The expectation of the 8:30 sync isn't clear

I am here

how is it not clear? It's on the calendar

Because we didn't do it yesterday

Are you in the hangouts?

i have decided i want a pet tiger

baby tiger

hi sorry i just woke up -___- I HAVE FAILEDDD

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

adeng: no worries :-)

:) http://goo.gl/forms/0SSQxJ9KZB

pre program test mvp

@jonl

adeng: woo!

Lemme go check it out

speaking of that, jonl and i were talking and we think it may make sense to have participants do that on the first day when they get there

1-16 is mindset 17-28 is grit test

mmm

what's the difference between questions 1-8?

they all sound very similar

adeng, there is no name field

oh my god

adeng q3 is messed up somehow

we have to see kung fury

do you guys want to watch a movie tonight

this is one of the trailers https://youtu.be/ZTidn2dBYbY

nice catches jonl oops

adeng: can you reword this: "10. Your talent in an area is something about you that you can’t change very much."

sounds weird

unclear, I hard to read it a bunch of times

here's the real trailer

this is incredible

mhm i could but just saying i used the exact wordings from the indset test from carol

jonl

q26 is wird

adeng: carol isn't the best writer lol

if you look at the Grit ones, they're worded WAY better

Other than that looks good