#docker-dev

I might change my mind later ;)

:-)

but it's easier to change my mi d that way than the other

true

I see the benefits of this approach

but now there will be 2 supervisors per container

though it is really nice to get rid of the global daemon

yeah but 2 supervisors that are each very simple

I wonder if we could hook up the introspection to the long-running dockerinit instead

I would argue the sum of these 2 simple supervisors is simpler than combining in a single thing

and have the other end of that socket hooked up to systemd for example

Oh I see

and it could start the docker client on demand

and the docker client could communicate with all the dockerinit's directly

I guess there could be a plugin doing that

But remember not every docker install uses systemd :)

true, just an idea...

i mean a unix system is full of processes running other processes

It's not like theres a monopoly on fork and waitpid :)

i agree though

I think when systemd is present we can do cool things to leverage it

to correct myself, it will be 3 supervisors per container if you include lxc-start or libvirt_lxc

but you're right, processes are cheap

well lxc-start would just exec

shykes: what are you describing here exactly?

lxc-start doesn't exec

introspection api from w/in docker container?

gabrtv yes: it's coming :)

along with links v2

and remote api v2 with real streaming

links v2 multi-host?

ah jpoimboe youre right

gabrtv yes

:)

jpoimboe but then no need for long running init

why not?

lxc-start isn't pid 1

ah yeah still pid1

Well then yeah 3 supervisors

:-)

which would be overkill

it's still better than a global daemon though IMO

thus a sign of an inferior plugin

I agree

just replace it with a small native plugin that does namespacing itself

yeah, we could whittle it down to 2

throw in a long running init if you need to

now what I really like

Is the ability to chain plugins

so that instead of a single monstro-plugin

you can compose a chain of small plugins which wrap each other

wrap each other? like nested?

yes

sounds meta

noooooo :)

heh

for example networking

and, say. Selinux integration

say dawg, I heard you like plugins

*shivers*

ahhhh

I want an easy way to say "run this app in a net namespace, with these 3 caps dropped, and this cool openvswitch plugin"

"and with this selinux label"

if I use say lxc for isolation and cap dropping

What if I still want that same openvswitch plugin

and, say, I want to activate michael's skydocknplugin

it sounds pretty awesome if you can get the interface right

found it, selinux as a plugin gif https://raw.github.com/jglovier/gifs/gh-pages/u...

;)

that is fear, not excitement, jj

i actually whiteboarded it with dwalsh today

i think it will work great

(Famous last words)

good to hear!

ya, the problem with selinux is that ppl don't take time to learn it

so we just disable it

yep

on a side note, if you need to find a bunch of gifs, look no further https://github.com/jglovier/gifs

my new favorite repo, should have more stars than docker soon

wow

that is a fantastic resource

jpoimboe: i think you mean YES https://raw.github.com/jglovier/gifs/gh-pages/y...

lollol

actually I meant https://github.com/jglovier/gifs/blob/gh-pages/...

there's also https://raw.github.com/jglovier/gifs/gh-pages/w... which is a good one

and I was hoping to get some work done today...

yeah, check out his font size there

freakin' huge

tianon: +!

what is that, ruby?

tianon: what, you don't code with a font size of 48?

hahaha

I code with a font size of 7.5

tianon: and a magnifier

naw, just makes everyone trying to read my screen squint

and my answer is "don't read my screen"

1.0 and a microscope is where the fun is at.

I just use my boss key

F12

lol, I used to use a smaller font, but I lost too many important details and could no longer tell certain letters/numbers apart

so now I'm just shooting for higher res screens

I want 16K in a 17" baby

or maybe a 21

17 is a little small

tianon gonna try that new dell sub-$1000 4k?

lol I have two problems with that - one, it's still super pricey, and two, it's a Dell :)

what's wrong with Dell?

Dell is great

they screwed up their bigger screens

I'm too much of a cheapo, I can wait for prices to come down

dell makes good monitors

my dude is one of their Linux engineers

but it looks like you can't get largeish monitors with antiglare coating that doesn't look like a thick layer of dirt was smeared on the screen :-(

it's nice to see how they are trying to save their "behinds", wouldn't you agree?

yeah, I definitely agree that Dell makes some pretty legit monitors, and I give them massive props for pushing Linux in big good ways, but their consumer-side customer support was so terrible back when I used Dells a lot that I just can't stomach them

they have some slick looking aluminum ultrabooks

after being on the phone for several hours being redirected between different departments nonstop and then being hung up on (and not for the first time), I decided to call it quits

I can't remember what it was

well, never buy consumer stuff

I always went through the small business stuff

and the cheap macbook air copy is the xps13

ah that's it

lol

keeb has one and is pretty happy about it I think

I still don't know if I'll have that, or a badass carbon, or something else

i think for my next laptop i'll ditch my mac fro a linux machine like the xps13

yes Michael!

join us!

come to the darkside!

we have more cores and more RAM here!

I do want an X1-Carbon

and you can run containers... NATIVELY!

just not retina displays

x1-carbon, with 32G ram damnit

bah, my life is already in a terminal

not retina but freaking hirez anyway

I don't care about resolution

I'd rather power savings

well, 400 columns emacs ftw

paultag: I'm in a terminal all day as well and i want my text as high res as possible