#django

FunkyBob: there's nothing sane about this dev environment

b0nn: Are you familiar with setting up the python interpreter in PyDev?

not really

Is your project listed?

(Did you create or import the project into pydev?)

FunkyBob is there a simple way to target that warning and silence it explicitly? Is there something I can drop into my settings?

project is listed

jwarren_: there is... I just never used it... lemme check

Ok, right-click on the project and select Properties at the bottom.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/ref/sett... ?

The only thing I was able to track down was catching deprecation warnings, but this wouldn't be that.

jarshwah mihgt know :)

so everytime I do MyModel.objects.all()[0] I get a different MyModel. What is going on here?

Then select "PyDev - Interpreter/Grammar"

theology: you didn't set an order

How on earth do you find these documentation links so quickly??

theology: so the DBMS is free to retrieve any record it likes

jarshwah: 12 years of practice?

FunkyBob, is it not set by default?

Click "Click here to configure an interpreter not listed."

theology: did YOU specify one?

FunkyBob, no

theology: either on your queryset, or on your model?

i never have

then what order would you expect to be the "default"?

on any project, but this has never happened before

transit is this where you are heading? http://imgur.com/a/ld7MK

Click "New..." then find the python binary for your virtualenv.

Yes.

it took me an age to find a decent image upload place

like, User.objects.all()[0] is always the first superuser for all of my projects FunkyBob

theology: pure luck

oh

FunkyBob, thanks for the info man, was really confused

np

do I have to load each variable one at a time?

theology: sorting takes time/work... so don't ask the DB to do it unless you need it

or can I bulk load them?

FunkyBob, right

b0nn: this is why I like envdir

I've never had to do more than a couple...don't know if there's a way to bulk-load them.

FunkyBob: I've never done this before, so I have no idea what's easiest

b0nn: this is also why I wrote the env tool in django-classy-settings to have a default :)

transit, ok I'll one by one them

transit: how do I run the export commands?

Example?

export DATABASE_URL

You wouldn't run them, these environment variables will just be set before the interpreter gets spun up.

I think I just learned something new about descriptors

b0nn: I think you'll have to give a value to any vars that are purely 'export myvar'.

ok, how do I run the second source command

which is a bash script that sets up the virtual pythonhome (etc)

The second source command is effectively set up to run automatically when you choose the python binary inside it.

(inside the virtualenv)

``source /my/venv/bin/activate; python;`` is more or less the same as ``/my/venv/bin/python``

_what moldy said_

so if you point eclipse that /my/venv/bin/python, that should mean you're using the virtualenv

until something goes wrong ;)

that's not what I want

what's the problem with it?

it can't find the modules

it should. if it doesn't, find out why.

you may need to add your project base dir onto the path as well

so, to run it from commandline I go.. ../env/bin/activate; then make runserver

or you just do /env/bin/python manage.py runserver

no

not at all

if that throws an error, show us the full traceback

which one?????

the one you want help with? ;p

transit: How do I run the ../env/bin/activate?

`activate` is not dark magic. it all it does is setup your path such that you can type `python` insead of `/env/bin/python`. stop focussing on `activate`, show us what you're droing and the full traceback

moldy, no.

ok, i'm out. good luck.

You wouldn't, python myscript will run myscript in the virtualenv that you set up with the custom python interpreter.

step away from the kb

What does `make runserver` do?

transit: in bash I would run source ../env/bin/activate

ok, so the problem is you're one step ahead

BEFORE I can run the runserver, I need to activate the environment

you don't

you don't

then why does it error

activating the environment is *always* optional

show us the error...

telling me the enviromnment isn't setup

What are you running that tells you the environment isn't set up?

moldy: ModuleNotFoundError: No module found 'foo.bar'

b0nn: full traceback please, on dpaste.com

transit: the effing run button

moldy: if I could I would have long ago

01:16< moldy> you may need to add your project base dir onto the path as well

it's probably this, but we need more info to tell

Next to the effing run button there is a little down arrow.

I have NFI what you mean

transit: yes

the run configurations

show us the real traceback, all of it, don't replace stuff with `foo.bar`

Under run (or debug configurations what is the main module?

the real values for `foo` and `bar` are important for us to understand your problem

${workspace_loc:work/manage.py}

(and I second moldy's suggestion for a traceback)

moldy: you know how I say you shouldn't fight y our tools? sometime you have to stop fighting to help someone ,too... :/

I'm more than aware how hard it is to debug in the dark

FunkyBob: yeah, i'm sorry, i guess i should step back

moldy: no... fight as long as you like... just, don't lost your happy doing it

i'm handing this off to the other competent folks here :)

FunkyBob killed moldy :(

no worries :p

finished?

b0nn: and the arguments?

runserver_plus localhost:8000

and your virtualenv paths are in PYTHONPATH?

pass

how do i check?

echo $PYTHONPATH

The same place where the main module is shows what pydev thinks the PYTHONPATH is for that run.

FunkyBob: having them in bash and getting them into eclipse is two different things (and the problem I am trying to fix)

transit: sorry, you've lost me

b0nn: it's been a lot time, but I think you can set environment variables for eclipse

In the run/debug configurations dialogue, there will be a PYTHONPATH section below the 'Main Module' section.

I ended up switching from eclipse to pycharm in part because it makes these things simpler

can't you make your activate script source your settings one?

jessamynsmith: I've tried pycharm in the past, I hated it

It should be already, I'm just helping him troubleshoot.

/more/ than I hate working on a mac

b0nn: interesting, I found it quite similar to eclipse

ok, in bash the echo $PYTHONPATH command returns an empty string

I think we're miscommunicating...not sure where you'd put echo $PYTHONPATH.