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fwiw, I'd begin the try just before the transaction.atomic() line, and have the except just after the transaction block

ipdb> Venue.objects.count() == 132 Venue.objects.get(tm_id='KovZpZA1E1AA') <Venue: International Motorsports Hall of Fame>

so it does already exist

len(venue_ids) ?

133

[v.id for v in venues_from_api if v.id = 'KovZpZA1E1AA']

[u'KovZpZA1E1AA']

.. wtf

yeah, how could this be?

print(state_code)

print(STATE_CHOICES)

AL

hmm that might be quite long

yeah, that's django-localflavor choices

hmm if there were dupe venue ids across states, your venue_ids should catch it

yeah, exactly. maybe issues with mysql lib?

the only thing I can do now, is recommend printing out each v.id as you iterate, then sort/compare them by eye to see if there's anything funky

doing it now.

Could anyone suggest a tool/service to monitor package updates? One that can keep an eye on django and python packages, possibly even javascript ones.

jarshwah_, nothing interesting on ids except that some are actually smaller than 12 chars. Here is the schema on the db : https://dpaste.de/Km9H

Some ids: KovZpZA1E1AA KovZpZA1E17A KovZpZA1E1aA

KovZpZA1E1aA, KovZpZA1E17A are saved then (KovZpZA1E1AA) comes and gives that error.

ok before you do vsave.save() ..

do a print(Venue.objects.filter(tm_id='KovZpZA1E1AA').count())

and do the same thing in your IntegrityError handler

along with the current v.id

aatish910: I gotta go, good luck.. if you figure it out, please message me and let me know what the problem was

(I'll be idling)

not_a_web_devbot: Are we supposed to just take your word for it?

jarshwah_, sure. thanks.

jarshwah_, if you are still there, KovZpZA1E1aA == KovZpZA1E1AA

bonjello

yep

hey guys. vps vs heroku- which one should i prefer for django hosting?

rads, it really depends on what you need

heroku won't require you to know how to maintain and secure a server

FunkyBob, is heroku one of those ones where you don't get access?

you get some access... it's a PaaS

ok. but does it offer freedom as vps offers? being used to working with ubuntu, how different will it be?

no

very different

heroku gives you a shelf on which to put your code

and magic happens

a vps gives you ubuntu

I have clients who run their business on Heroku... you can do a lot with it

but it's no VPS

ok.is it as affordable though?

if you use it right, yes

i don't get the concept of dyno

it depends

think of a dyno like a tiny container

i run djangochannels,mongodb,celery all in the same project

which one should i prefer for this purpose?

heroku gives you more control over how much resources you use, but the resources come at a higher premium compared to you running those things on a vps

but they're managed for you

ask yourself -- how much would it cost you in ops time / employment

ok

also... mongodb? really?

w e b s c a l e

FunkyBob, not this again

heh

not as your primary data store, though, rads ?

FunkyBob, seriously, it turned into an all out war last time

its just for logging

mixture of sql and mongodb

ah

that reminds me actually, need to shut down our mongo instance

*cough* I'm still on mysql

Mariadb is mostly the same as MySQL. Mostly.

Is there a way to make a QuerySet ordered pseudorandomly in a deterministic way? i.e. somehow seed the randomness and get the same "random" order eveyrtime

DrCuriosity: just as many "wtf" behaviors?

k_sze[work]: add a seeded random field?

Probably. And just enough marginally different "wtf" behaviours to keep you on your toes :-P

for instance, annotate with a field that hashes a candidate key with your seed

(Still has the same utf8 vs uft8mb4 issues that were making a CMS sad when people used 4-char emojis, though.)

I'll be honest, never had a wtf issue. there are some "nice to haves" in postgres, but nothing to warrant migrating over

for one, our migrations simply won't run for some reason

well, today I rolled out an app that uses AWS' DynamoDB

isn't that their document based NoSQL?

vendor lock-in as a service

woot

haha

more or less, yeah

and yeah, given it's a "serverless" app... locked in [for now]

what's the arguably best open source document store? about to give couchdb a shot since rethinkdb is dead.

I hear good things about couch... I keep wanting to spend more time with ArangoDB

but "best" ... well.. what's your use case?

super simple personal image upload/hosting. i could probably just use a standard rmdb but i keep looking for reasons to look into nosql data stores and this is the best i've come up with so far

so it's not a use case, this is rather "forcing it in"

pundurs: interestingly, I was going to make something like that

image upload/transform sort of thing

hmm, i see.

instagram killer

well, transform, at least

most of the work was designing config/auth/monetising things

I see things working in document db's, but then as soon as I expand on it, it just works better with true relations

yep

ah, to have a truely RDBMS

anyway

FunkyBob, read up on neo4j?