#django

seems like a good start :) https://github.com/stephenmcd/django-forms-builder

thomaxo: ajax forms? you mean ... forms? :)

to django there's really no difference

both kinda, user posts form and component gets updated inline after post :)

basically every component needs to be able to be pulled isolated from page, but i think thats simply a routing, i'll probably figure it out :)

yeah, nvm :D .. ajax replace <component id="21323"></component> with "http://home.com/components/gallery/template&id=21323" -> "component"

any suggestions on front-end javascript frameworks that work great with django? jQuery seems so old-school, yet newer stuff like angular seems to be having no plans for LTS releases soon..

any

Django doesn't care.

django is pretty awesome

though if you're using jquery, make sure you switch off that stupid non-standard form encoding stuff [is it off by default yet?]

not sure, but i'll probably need to provide a key for django and for jquery?

I thought they rejected calls to turn it off by default, because Rails.

A key?

all that bullshit of adding [] onto field names, etc...

security key

mattmcc: I thought it was because PHP...

so not everyone can post stuff to a url

rails uses the same shit?

Thought they did..

thomaxo: security? look at the Auth docs

will do!

i suppose django also doesn't care about the server os very much? ubuntu/centOS/...?

Nope, why would it? It's just Python.

True, but some stuff might work better with nginx, apache or centOS + apache,... so many combinations :P

currently i'd pick it at random

In production, Django just needs a WSGI server (gunicorn, uwsgi, mod_wsgi, etc..)

Well, what are you familiar with?

pretty much familiar with cheap shares hosting :P

shared*

so i suppose i'll use the one with the easiest set-up tutorial :)

thomaxo: I tried getting it play well with React, but it was a pain tbh

thomaxo: avoid anything using cPanel

FunkyBob: bc of hax, or something else?

i'll have a look at which front-end js framework likes me best :)

isnt django always done with SSH setup stuff?

thomaxo: I like DigitalOcean for it's docs

was thinking of going with digitalOcean :)

DO is alright

DO woo

some people I know swear by linode or vultr

I use DO myself

https://github.com/stephenmcd/django-forms-builder pretty much perfect for my cms-idea, just need to make it pretty and let it generate components instead :) And then realise a whole dozen of exceptions but meh! Exciting

sangy: because it's sucky, restrictive, they tend to only have MySQL, only run CentOS [and old centos], tend to charge extra for SSH access... only run apache, and then without mod_Wsgi...

given how cheap and easy it can be to run a DO droplet, and host half a dozen sites on that...

yeah, DO is cheaper then cheap hosts

probably doesn't have mailservers though?

That's what Mailgun, Sendgrid, Mandrill, etc. are for.

You can run your own mail server on a VPS of course, but, it wouldn't be my first choice.

how do i adjust the period of time where the user stays authenticated when they come back?

HowardwLo: Session cookie lifetime

mattmcc: danks

Hi guys, does anyone know how to make `python3 manage.py makemessages` ignore everything BUT one folder when generating message files?

^i18n related

mattmcc: is it set_expiry()? https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/topics/ht...

maybe override the function in routes, for every route except one, would be my uneducated amateurish try :)

mattmcc: ah thank you. the one i linked, is that for inactive page view? like if you haven’t interacted with django for 5 minutes, it’ll auto log you out?

No, Django doesn't do that.

I thought that was to override the default xpiry?

no wonder no one was one

i was Dc from channel

Well, you can expire the session, sure. But the user wouldn't know they're logged out until their next request.

right, when the user tries to do something that requires auth, it’ll prompt for a login

if that's how you've written it

(for instance, using login_required)

cool. does inactive count as no requests to django?

or does it include js/frontend stuff?

Django's server-side, it doesn't know what the frontend is doing unless it makes a request to the server.

can django prompt an update to all front-end sessions?

Server-sent events?

as a result of user interaction

say user A and B edit the same page, user A updates, user B gets prompted

That's a pretty specific situation.

One approach might be pub/sub.

which get updates every 20 secs or something?

user A -> updating moduleA, user B -> disable moduleA

but meh, those are for in the far future :P

it's a hard problem to solve yourself I think

lot of annoying things to consider

yeah, maybe just send the module_revision_ID along with the form post, and if it's an older revision disable updating to prevent weird database stuff?

I wonder if you could do explicit locking

say, once someone starts editing, lock the row for 10 minutes, put a timer on the screen

and just catch/handle the error nicely if someone tries to edit during the lock

but not sure how you'd do that in django

not even sure if you can just say "lock row for x minutes" or "lock row until I say stop", hmm

when someone else starts editing forms, you can request component_editability(id=12312312341232)

At that point you're writing a rather elaborate JS app that talks to Django.

yeah

i barely know good js too :P

So, yes, of course it can be done.