#django

doismellburning: sorry lemme upload that real quick

if it’s anyhing you’re going to interact with in any interesting way, it need to be loaded in installed apps. The only exception is really root-level libraries

how can I make models.CharField to accept utf-8?

doismellburning: here it is https://dpaste.de/bSO5

there is nothing about Charfield that stops you from accepting UTF-8

you’re doing something wrong somewhere.

'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u0142' in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)

it's from django admin

when trying to add utf-8 char in charfield

konradb: please see the topic

konradb: django itself fully works with unicode, so…

garrettdreyfus: 'fraid I can't be much help - never touched formwizards

I did, once…

apollo13: I have long link to bitbucket, should I use bit.ly or paste raw? ;_;

dpaste

konradb: links to bitbucket are fine

and the traceback?

There is problem when trying add utf-8 char in Title of models.Entry

give me a sec, uploading error message

are you using python2.7? are you ever using "%s some text" % something?

yes, in some places

and yes, 2.7

mysql?

konradb: is it your image field?

default, so sqlite3

konradb: if you use 2.7 you shouldn't use __str__ but __unicode__ for instance

gmf$ . venv1.7/bin/activate gmf$ pip3 install django==1.7 Could not find an activated virtualenv (required). Any ideas?

collinanderson: no, Title, charField

the venv seems very activated to me

toothfairy_: afaik if the venv is active it will change your bash prompt

ie (tmp-6fd4b016d47b057d)florian@apollo13:~/

toothfairy_: source bin/activate

doismellburning: Thank you anyways!

tbaxter: I'll try

try source venv1.7/bin/activate

are all these fixed or must all patches be applied manually? http://django.readthedocs.org/en/latest/release...

apollo13: konradb: if you use 2.7 you shouldn't use __str__ but __unicode__ for instance

apollo13: it changes: (venv1.7)gmfs-iMac:~ gmf$ pip3 install django==1.7 Doesn't "." correspond to "source"?

http://i.imgur.com/NhWvN9k.jpg the error

yvear: they are of course fixed if you use the latest release of every supported version

but I think that __unicode__ will fix the problem

yeah it works. Thank you

Hello I am learning about Django. I know little to nothing about web-development in general. My question is, for what kinds of projects would I require Django vs. pure html or javascript?

gnudestallman: as soon as you need your website to be dynamic (for example, when you store data) you need something like django

apologies for asking what may be a silly question, but I'm confused on how to approach my goal. I'd like to make a variable (representing categories of articles/content) available to the site base template so my nav menu can render a drop down menu for each category.

presently it feels like I'd have to modify each view to augment the context passed to the template

bananaa: So Django has no use for a static website?

bananaa: What would be a common alternative to Django one might consider?

gnudestallman: django would be overkill for a static site. more overhead than necessary.

gnudestallman: there are lots of alternatives. Python: web.py, flask. Ruby: Rails, Sinatra. PHP: Laravel, Codeigniter. etc

if a site is truly static, then just plain old HTML is all you need :-)

But what site is really static?

gnudestallman: what tbaxter said

gnudestallman, if what you actually want is a CMS then django-cms might be what you're looking for

kavefish: I’d probably have a Category model, and include it via a context processor or template tag

although I don’t believe in building Nav server-side at all.

thanks tbaxter. I have a category model. not sure how to do that last part

Jyrsa: Does Django-cms work with Django or independently?

but at least those are some words I can Google

tbaxter: good point

Anyone know how to use sessions (i.e. set cookie sessionid) on anonymous requests? I know that sessionid is set during user auth via admin or other logic using django inbuilt auth system. I was wondering how to use the same session api for unauthenticated users.

gnudestallman, it's made with django

guys I need a django based blog up and running quick whilst I add functionality later which of the apps do you recommend? mezanine , feincms, djangocms and zinnia are afew i have come across

it builds upon django. I don’t think a beginner should tackle django-cms, personally. That’s a steep learning curve, and so far you’ve said nothing that makes me think you need/want a massive CMS

softinio: if it’s just a blog, there are a zillion choices. You can whip up one in an afternnon.

here’s mine https://github.com/tBaxter/tango-articles

tbaxter, a much better question is should you whip one up in an afternoon :)

tbaxter: Well, I don't have any project in mind. But I am working through a textbook on TDD that uses Django, so I am thinking about potential fun projects to use now that I am learning Django

a valid question

softinio: I used this one: http://www.yaconiello.com/blog/part-1-creating-...

Maybe a personal website. Seems like everybody has one of those

But would a personal website be a good fit for a Django project?

gnudestallman: nice. I definitely wouldn’t use django-cms then. I’d just make the personal website I wanted. it’ll be a nice learning experience.

sure

the real question is, what sort of personal website do you want?

@tbaxter nice ! thank you

is there a way in sinde my forms.py file I can define an array like choices = ((1, 'First'), (2, 'Second')) and use it in different classes?

I don't know. Biography. CV. Projects I've worked on

gnudestallman, i use ikiwiki for mine

speaking of which i may not have updated it for over a year

Something I can link to and help me get a job in the future

er way inside my forms.py ...

gnudestallman: I’d use flatpages for the more static bits, then maybe hook into the github api for the projects part.

I have a personal private mediawiki

gnudestallman, a personal web page helping you get a job is a bit 1990s, unless you're a graphic designer

maybe tap into twitter or something for a some other things

Jyrsa: but a link to the github repo showing the code for your personal site....

The beauty of personal sites is that they allow you to pursue anything you’re interested in. Just find a way to do.

Jyrsa: What's the "thing to do to help get a job in software development" of 2015?

I think the site would be mostly a personal bio/CV/ and a showcase of my projects on github.

gnudestallman, be relatively smart, overconfident in your own abilities and have a strong working ethic?

not sure if overconfident is such a good idea :)

might also need to learn or be learning programming

apollo13, it's quite necessary as overconfident and hard working people can make shit happen that underconfident people would never try

it also helps to be 22y/o, know nothing, but be just like everyone in the startup.

bananaa gnudestallman web.py is abandonware btw

Did my question make sense even?

malgorath, sure. define it and import it.

Jyrsa: Maybe, but I often rather just have people how are confident and know what they can and don't overestimate theirself

Jyrsa: do you have an example you mean?

anyways, that's probably a topic for another channel

gnudestallman not to be glib, but the answer to your job question is know what you're doing

you will have a head up on like 75% of the workforce

malgorath, no i mean just do it. define an array outside the classes and refer to it in all the classes you want to use it in.

malgorath, you might want to define it in a different file if you'll be importing it from a lot of places though

Jyrsa: thats what I was thinking, its gonna be a state/provience drop down box

can I make a variables.py file?

malgorath: you can make whatever you please :)

you may want a “locations” app.

also, at one point there were states and provinces defined in django. localflavor as I recall. Not sure if they’re still there though.

gonna repeat a question from an hour ago, if somebody has any ideas

[19:58:59] <bananaa>I'm importing JSON data via deserialize, which is working ok. But im wondering if its possible to reference foreignkey data by nesting, instead of via get_by_natural_key? example: http://paste.ee/p/fGo8y

tbaxter: I have a few other "choices" fields I have to define for multiple forms