#django

iron_houzi: though based on the files this is looking for this has little to do with your actual problem which is getting Django to find your static files

kraghot, read about backward relationships in the documentation

kraghot, these are really basic things.

mlavin: OK, so you can tell from the log that the static files aren't found?

bibhas: OK, sure will. This is my first day with django and python and any sort of database, so I'm really slow at it

bibhas: if my start,loc is: (1/12 8:00, A) (1/12 8:00 B) (1/12 9:00, A) I have to strip the time bit off to get the 2 A's next to each other.

iron_houzi: yes I'm assuming that a URL which ends in .js is a static file

kraghot, ah. no worries. keep digging the doc.

mlavin: Correct, but do you have a suggestion for what could be wrong with my config?

bibhas: sure will :)

CarlFK, you can strip the time when printing. it's a datetimefield. it'll be sorted chronologically.

iron_houzi: I haven't seen your config but if I had to take a wild guess you have some "project level" static files but haven't properly configured STATICFILES_DIRS

iron_houzi: or you have static files in an app but it isn't in your INSTALLED_APPS

mlavin: yes, project level static files indeed. Thanks

bibhas: you aren't paying attention. this is what happens when I sort chronologically: (1/12 8:00, A) (1/12 8:00 B) (1/12 9:00, A) and that is not what I want.

CarlFK, ah. order_by('x', 'y') means that order by x first and then order by y among them. what is the expected output?

bibhas: result I am after: (1/12 8:00, A) (1/12 9:00, A) (1/12 8:00 B)

bibhas: if it helps, I want order by: date, loction, time

bibhas: 5 day conference. for each day (like Jan 12) I want to see the talks in the first room, then the talks in the 2nd room...

What do you guys use to secure your contact and other email forms such? I'm trying to avoid as much spam as possible

CarlFK, you might have to extract the date and time inside `extra` using DBMS specific function and then sort using them. Because it's a datetimefield, the data type in db is also datetime.

can I use .annotate() to give me just the date from a datetime?

I have a manager that is supposed to spit back published articles, for some reason the date seems to be sticking to the date when the process (uwsgi) was started. Is this not the right way to do this?

Serraphyn: rule #1 of contact forms: Never expose an email address, anywhere.

tbaxter: I don't I just have the user put in their name, email, and message (for now)

I mean, don’t expose recipient emails.

Although, if they’re logged in, sender shouldn’t necessarily need to give their email either.

I don't, the forms all come to one address

which is done server-side, right?

they are not logged in yet, this site is very simple for now, it will grow but for now

tbaxter: yes

I'm using the try, except BadHeaderError to avoid injected emails

OK, so sounds like you’ve met rule #1.

serraphyn: you can use a captcha, though if your contact form only ever emails one particular address and is hardened against header injection, it's of little-to-no use to spammers

Now, if they don’t have to be logged into send a message, the second thing you want to do is to avoid bots. honeypots are helpful.

honeypots are like fields that are not to be filled in that they will try to fill in?

right. if the hidden field has a value, the email should be rejected

ah okay

Kinda nice not using captcha, so many people have problems with them I find

not a fan of captchas.

me neither, which is why i designed a textual one that just asks for a simple arithmetic question to be solved

do I have to define my manager in models.py for some reason? right now I import it from managers.py

not hard to enter "2" when it says "what's 1+1"

Kromey: much less intrusive.

so far this project I'm doing is just static pages and forms, but by the end of today I'm gonna add on some database parts.

it's here if anyone's interested in using it: https://github.com/Kromey/django-simplecaptcha

Would it be wise to make one mailing function and just call it from the other apps or should I do a seperate def for each one? I have like 5 forms in total and don't want to start working things in a manner that is not a good practice.

Serraphyn: repeating yourself as little as possible (code-wise) would be sensible

guess I'll have to learn how to do helpers or w/e they are called in python

functions?

I mean in a seperate file

Serraphyn: modules?

like if I want to make a utils directory and then I can reference it from other apps in my project

Hello

are those modules?

Im using ldap for authentication in my django

how can I mock a relatedmanager object? e.g. `mypoll.choices`. trying to monkeypatch the attribute directly tries to call manager.add(*value)

Serraphyn: https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/modules.html

I created some models. I want releating model to ldap users

for example my model is Ticket. And Ticket has a creator and assignee. Some users has creator and some user has just operations eleman(assignee). I want to do role based structure

How can I do. user role based structure using ldap

sort of complicated question: has anyone found any creative alternatives to downloading production databases and/or media files for local dev setups? when a site or project is still small, you just download a mysql or postgres dump and import it in your local dev setup and rsync media files from the live server, but this eventually becomes impractical as the database and media files grow. what’s a more scalable option for this?

doismellburning: thanks that worked out well for me I just need to know how to import it from /projectroot/utils/file.py into an app and I'll be sound as a pound

doismellburning: thanks for your input!

doismellburning: i think i will go with simple tar.gz files, at least for now

davesque i would just have a dev database that does not contain the full production database. smaller sample sizes, etc.

doismellburning: though i have not decided finally yet. i don't think i want to maintain my own debian package mirror, looks like overengineering in my case.

mekhami: right. but i would hope there could be some easy way to create a small subset of the live database and media files. that can be useful, for instance, if you want to troubleshoot a bug with more or less the same application state in which it arises.

temhaa: and you’re successfully authenticating users via LDAP?

google is not forth coming with how to import this module :-/

davesque: at my last job we dealt with that routinely, and the best solution we ever came up with was bzip-compressed SQL dumps of the production database; however, note that 9 times out of 10, you don't need the full production database, just e.g. the settings and users tables, and a subset of other data to get your application to run

so really most of the time we only downloaded a table or two, and the results of a couple of SQL queries with LIMIT clauses

Kromey: right. thankfully, in my case, the database is still small enough that i can download a gzipped dump pretty quickly. the media files are a different question though. i wonder if there’s a way to create a media file manager that will defer to an S3 account if it can’t find a file locally or something like that.

Kromey: then i can have a kind of layer file system for media files…i dunno :P.

so let me see if I understand this, I need to make a utils app and include that?

morning all, i'm trying to pass some template variables to javascript files

but i'd like to do it without globals

is there a solution that anyone can recommend?

is it normal for all quotes to be escaped (\") in the output of return JsonResponse()?

limbera: assign them to scoped object instead of globals?

Serraphyn: sounds to me like you want a contact form app, not a utils app.

tbaxter: I wanted a place I could put reusable functions, which I've got working fine, now I'm off to validating field info like emails and such

makes sense! tbaxter

restful: it could be quoted by python or by json

collinanderson: do you think it is a problem?

restful: my guess is it's operating correctly :).

k thx!

restful: if you run into trouble, dpase.de an example

can you guys direct me to a tut or link about how to refill in a form that has errors?

I’ve got a model that often has 3-15 objects with FKs to it and I’d like to represent them in my template nicely in a grid so I need to chunk down to a new row every 4 objects. Is there a clean way to do this?