#django

What is the best way to learn django ?

Hello

interweb: The tutorial in the documentation is probably a good start.

I was looking at node and they don't seem to have a tutorial in the docs.

Nobody's perfect.

Is there any digital version of two scoops of django 1.6 out there ?

no

and last I heard, there never will be

FunkyBob, Is it good enough to buy the paper book ?

FunkyBob, Should I buy it ?

I have a copy, but I've not read it yet

have you done the tutorial in the docs yet?

interweb, It is a good reference book if you have experience working with Django. However, do not expect it to handhold you from step 1 at all.

interweb, I have the 1.5 edition.

interweb, I keep referring to it almost on a daily basis to clean up and improve my code base.

interweb, As FunkyBob suggested, the tutorial in the docs is a really good resource. I started with Django only 4 months back. :)

kaakku, as a matter of fact I'm learning python and then I'm going to use django

interweb, Ah okay. Don't you have local community gatherings around your area?

kaakku, No , I live in Iran

interweb, Alright. Maybe you can start one with a few others. :)

interweb, Here is one that we had 2 months back. You can find one tutorial resource within: http://bangalore.python.org.in/blog/2014/01/18/...

interweb, It has a gist which explains a Django app development step by step.

kaakku, looks awesome

interweb, :)

interweb, Hey, didn't his happen there? http://www.pycon.ir/

s/his/this

kaakku, Yes but it was last year and I were not there

interweb, Ah okay.

FunkyBob: "I have the book but not read it" < why i stopped buying hardcopy books

if i wanted to disable user registration via a setting, what kind of error should i raise in the view?

that depends on what you want users to see.

xmj: well, I didn't buy it... so... :)

FunkyBob: sell it on ebay, free up space and buy books that actually interest you ?

the book interests me

I just haven't had time to read it

xmj: i was thinking of a permission denied error but is there a way to pass a context to those type of thing, or should just create an registration disabled template/view to redirect to?

djapo: raise PermissionDenied will typically give you a (normal) 403 template

djapo: why not create another error with the ability to display some static template like "Due to the high amount of people in the queue we do not currently allow direct registration" or other nice text ?

xmj: nice, ill look into how to do that, is there a base error class that i could inherit from?

why are you trying to make this difficult and complicateD?

some people seem addicted to it

K.I.S.S.

FunkyBob: it's sunday, what other day to do the Overengineering on

Without prior programming experience, if I went through the www.learnpythonthehardway.org tutorials, can I directtly start learning Django or should I solidfy my Python skills a little more?

Wanting to create a text webgame with Django.. is that viable?? Sort of like a MUD

but on a website :D

also can Django support something like websockets?

LPTHW is certainly good and it won't help you with django, so you might want to poke fun at the django tutorials

maybe contribute bugfixes to some other django projects to learn it

icic thanks xmj

TheWhiteOx: yes, you could learn, with guidance

TheWhiteOx: why would you want websockets?

TheWhiteOx: yes, a MUD has been done in django before

TheWhiteOx: there are several projects to support websockets on djang... but I think you'd find Sever Sent DOM Events probably a better fit

FunkyBob: Thanks ill do some research,

yup

point being that i'd first try to wrap my head around how django's internal works, spend some time on grokking it, and only then start programming the djangoMUD

YMMV tho

xmj: Thanks!

Doing research on web technologies/languages/frameworks at the moment to see if it can implement my ideas

mainly being, a webapp that's aimed towards mobile, ipad/tablets

and the GUI would be like an old book, room and room description on the left

whenever character moves, the room description and room title will change and have a pageflip effect

Is that possible with Django?

and some sort of scrolling event echo'ing on the right page of the 'book' GUI

TheWhiteOx: sounds like ajax

Ahhhh

With an Ajax setup hwo would I program the gamelogic?, serverside javascript?

you create an API with django and let the clients do the rest with JS :p

the creating-the-API part has the nice side-effect that you can have clients other than JS should you need that

ahhhhhh icic

so django itself would handle the gamelogic?

Well, Python.

ahhh

so AJAX can make calls to python scripts on the server?

Sorry for all the noob questions, doing thorough research before I put my nose to the grindstone =)

TheWhiteOx: there's not just one way to do this

but, having an API that handles transitions between data from clients to backend is the canonical way these days.

I'm getting a NoReverseMatch error and I seem to be unable to find the problem. https://gist.github.com/portablejim/9868632

TheWhiteOx: not scripts itself, they're more python entry points

ahhh icic

Any links/books/resources I can lookup to building an API in Python? :D

www.google.com has these

portablejim: basically you have 1 url with a named argument, and you're trying with a positional argument

FunkyBob: we've had lots of Bikeshed discussions about how to correctly build an API at $work