#django

dodobas

dodobas: hi

in the url config, what does the name flag do?

Does anyone have any ideas why my unicode would be rendered as \u0644 etc. in my template?

sedeki: it names the url pattern, to make it easier to specify to the reverse() function

FunkyBob why would I want to reverse? To make the pattern more readable?

mipo: hi

sedeki: to get a url from a view/url and its arguments

sedeki: to avoid hard-coding URLs

wow.. quite new to Django, are you?

FunkyBob nice thanks

so I have an Article() model. I create an instance article = Article(title = ..., ...) then I want to check if it exists "if article in Article.objects.all()" but that's not very efficient. Do I have to use filter? get_or_create perhaps

depends on how you define "exists"... but get_or_create is a common pattern for that

get or create returns if it's created as well

good

hey guys

just wanted to ask

how did you guys pick up django?

metasandwich: just by reading the tutorial and the documentation

and practice of course

HI

hi

what is the difference between flask and django?

Nizumzen

Nizumzen:haha ok

I'm having a hell of a time trying to create a new poll in the "django first app tutorial"

mipo: word flask has 5 letters and django 6... :)

mkad: flask is a more lightweight web framework where as django provides much more from which you can work with - generally speaking I tend to think of flask as being a good tool for web service APIs and django is a better tool for general purpose web development but maybe that is just me

flask apps will eventually include 3rd party modules that will make them 'bloated' as django

django apps will eventually start removing 3rd pary modules that ill make them 'lean' as flask

so are you a 'half-full' or 'half-empty' kinda person

metasandwich: what sort of trouble?

dodobas: heh.. you want to see a lightweight web framework? take a look at antfarm :P

FunkyBob: i used to use PHP so a lot of these terms are new to me

FunkyBob: did you forget about wsgiref ? :)

trying to find out what forms vs formsets are now

metasandwich: a Form is a class for casting and validating data

metasandwich: a Formset is a set of forms ... multiple forms of the same type

metasandwich: utilites that facilitate form and formset creation :)

ahh okay

what does casting data mean?

metasandwich: well, all data submitted in a HTML form are strings

metasandwich: you want to cast them to more useful types, like integers, or floats, or objects...

so its like converting the data type?

yes

this is a term used in PHP also,, I'm sure

it's a fairly generic programming term

oh okay

im still a novice

waiting for the day the code in the tutorial doesnt seem like pure magic

heh

dodobas: :D

dodobas: flask in lightweight that django , because it is 5 chars and django is 6 :D

mipo: oh shit, maybe I should rename antfarm :P

FunkyBob: :)

FunkyBob: i can't find anything relevant about antfarm :/

How do I convert a unicode string from \u3423 to readable text? It gets rendered as the former in my templates.

dodobas: hey, I only just created the repo today

Maybe I should just pay everyone to move to python 3

JustSighDudes: where did ths string come from?

FunkyBob: It's a tweet