#django

FunkyBob: Hm..

Thank you FunkyBob

basically, have your web server alias STATIC_URL to STATIC_ROOT and you're good

evenin'

FunkyBob: so if my goal is to go from JSON->MyModel with nap, i dont need to think about Publishers, right?

right

ok

it's quite flexible, in truth

it seems as though serializers.deserialize() is only intended to work on data that was originally serialized by django

well, yes... it' the counterpart to serializers.serialize, of course

but im not started with MyModel data, im starting with external data. so API-JSON -> my model

Nelluk: The best way to turn JSON data into a model is to use a form.

(ie, json.loads() the data, and then pass that to a form)

That way you can get form validation to ensure your data is valid.

hm

the one thing i like better about Symfony over Django is the tutorials.

is there anyone who has used django with require.js before?

gaplus: we do

FunkyBob: so the app I'm working on has a ton of data getting sent to the client via ajax, and I'm wondering if I should be using server templates for getting the data instead of using the client

FunkyBob: the reason I mention require js is because in my experience django templates and require js dont mix well

I guess first off I want to know whether theres a rule of thumb for how *bloated* a page can be before resorting to a server-side solution

Use REST?

Nervosa: I am using rest

What are you thinking, have Django send json to the page?

gaplus: We do too.

Nervosa: well im working with some legacy code, and what they did was have an inline javascript in the template that made use of template variables within the script

so it was a weird hybrid of django template code and javascript

i dont know if thats normal

gaplus: Sometimes that's unavoidable.

For example... you might want var apiToContact = "{% url ... %}";

yeah i dont really have strong objections to it but it caused a lot of issues when using require js

Just run it -all- before require.js is used?

So the issue with that is overlapping dependencies

you should be able to have inline fragments still call require

FunkyBob: I am able to technically, but I kept running into this problem where these global variables (like the jquery '$') wouldnt be global anymore, since I had to scope them specifically for the inline fragment

You need jquery for your Django template vars?

Or it's bringing in code?

Nervosa: I need jquery for the inline scripts which make use of template vars

I've bumped into the same problem many times. I think I ended up moving jquery into the template, before require.js runs.

It sucks, but hands can sometimes be tied.

I use the 'jquery-embedded-into-requirejs' build.

schinckel: thanks I'll look into it

so without having looked at the build, does requirejs know if jquery is already loaded on the page?

Hey guys, Is Django fast enough to scale?

or do you have to remove all jquery references to avoid conflicts?

gaplus: My setup is not to use other jqueries.

schinckel: how does that work if you use libraries which depend on jquery?

I have a require.config() or something set up, that loads all base dependencies (jquery, bootstrap, jquery.cookie)

I have been reading the docs, but I don't see anywhere that it is mentioned.

It handles dependencies fine.

PKKid2: disqus use django. It scales fine.

schinckel, So Django is web scaled?

So, are you a troll?

django is web scale, yes

;)

wait for django 1.6... it's mind blowingly faster

nkuttler, Thanks, I think I'll use it.

gaplus: It automatically registers 'jquery' as an installed module, and then you can just have your other bits depend upon it.

schinckel: yes thats my current setup

gaplus: I have the following as my config.js: http://dpaste.com/1433247/

schinckel: but i guess im confused about how that works if you have jquery loaded before requirejs

gaplus: And in my base template, I have:

<script src="{% static 'js/require.js' %}"></script>

<script src="{% static 'js/config.js' %}"></script>

gaplus: That is the only way I load jquery now.

Any time I want something to use jquery, I do a:

require(['jquery'], function($) { … });

That will then wait until jquery is loaded before running that bit.

The only thing I have not _yet_ mastered is using r.js to combine files :(

I'm using a storage backend to version files though: http://dpaste.com/1433253/

schinckel: ok...so have you ever placed 'require(['jquery'], function($) { … });" in a django template, where you have an inline javascript in the brackets?

thats basically where I get in trouble

gaplus: Yes. Quite often. Indeed, I _just_ wrote some code then that does that!

schinckel: so when I did that, I was no longer able to use jquery in the dev console

$ became undefined

gaplus: Ah, that's the crux of the problem, then.

even though my script executed fine

$ = require('jquery')

(In your console, only).

Although, I thought it also set window.$ for legacy reasons.

schinkel: I got r.js working pretty well with grunt.

yeah I tried that but no luck...didnt know about the $ = require('jquery') hack, thanks!!

Or, you could have 'window.$ = $' inside a code block.

(no luck with window.$)

Nervosa: I may have to bug you about that in a month or so...