#django

FunkyBob: Really? I discovered them recently and thought Django was gravitating towards them.

cronin: as you've proven to yourself, sometimes a function is far simpler

no

Django is using them for reusable, extensible views... not _all_ views

FunkyBob: Okay, well that's a relief then. I'll just stick with function views for things like this.

FunkyBob: Yeah, I'm still not seeing the changes. Could it be something in my settings?

honestemu: so you're changing polls/static/polls/style.css ?

FunkyBob: Any best practices in terms of organization yet? For instance, does it make sense to create a function_views.py and cbv_views.py or do people usually just keep it all in views.py? I guess that's a fairly subjective question…

FunkyBob: Yup. All that's in there is a change in the color of the links to green and an image in the bottom right.

cronin: they're all just views

but you can put views wherever you like

okay, thanks

FunkyBob: the select options are a list of file names, and teh files are serialized objects, the serialized objects are collections of data

so a filepathfield won't fit

the files are not uploaded...so i don't think so

the app just needs to check a directory, and put the files on a list, i could limit the files in a particular directory to map 1 to 1 to the list, all the files on the list

I think i'll add the methods to the same class that managed the files, in cases where the file doesn't exist that class creates it etc.

I'm not certain, but I don't think FilePathField needs to refer to files in media

FunkyBob: i'll take a look a the filepath, you convinced me it might be worth it, i've used it for uploading files and perhaps it is the right way

I'm trying to reverse my queryset, but it seems I'm stuck on something really silly: http://dpaste.com/1322306/

apollo13, got a second?

freannrak: put a - on the front of your order_by field name

freannrak: You're not updating the queryset instance.

queryset = queryset.order_by(...)

ahh :D

mattmcc: it works! thank you

FunkyBob: What do you think the issue is? I believe I followed the tutorial to the letter.

Hi you'll, one question: What is the equivalent to "Rake tasks" in a python/django environment?

I am watching a tutorial on Django, but they are using django 1.2. Is it a bad idea to use this as a learning resource since it's a few years old?

kartarn: You might take a look at fabric.

yes it is

fabric thanks @mattmcc

I have a few that returns HttpResponse("You need to be logged in to have a stream") if a user is not logged in, however, when I try to access it when not logged in I get ValueError at /stream/ the view didn't return an HTTPResponse object, any idea what's happening?

kartarn, you talking to me?

Pandee: There's a tutorial in the documentation.

santiissopasse: Are you sure you don't have a path out of the view that doesn't return a response?

yes Pandee

yeah, there's only two, the one that works and the one that I posted

Not that I don't believe you, but since Django says otherwise, how about pasting your view.

kartarn: ok

mattmcc: https://dpaste.de/TUBI4/

the code after else: is what's messing up

It's not returning anything.

mattmcc: hmm.. Fabric doesn't work for me. What I want to do is to create some scripts to fill my DB with dummy data. But I don't want them in my migration scripts I want them to be on demand

kartarn: Oh, fixtures.

yes !

mattmcc: what should it be returning? shouldn't an HTTP Response at least take me to a page with just the mesage?

santiissopasse: If you returned it, sure. But you're missing a word there.

yeah, when i used the FileField to upload files, I still used a ModelChoiceField to map the files, and since I don't have a model for the files this time, it's a little more complicated handling the choices

mattmcc: oh haha, I see

mattmcc: ok fixed, thanks, I feel dumb

where is the best place to put your script on django app models or views

amb1s1: What kind of script?

like datetime

to get the date

amb1s1: not everything must be in models or views.... it's all just Python, after all

arguably, however, i want to have a model for the file names, so that the ids of selected files always mapped to the same filename...

in fact, i think that's the only sensible thing to do

I guess the model could have a couple methods that looked in the directory, and added any missing files, etc

OPS: The link in the django blog to pip appears to point to an alias of readthedocs.org, and Chrome complains about this. To whom would such observations best be directed?

Baylink: in what way does chrome complain?

In a 3/28 blog entry, pip is linked to https://pip.rtfd.org/, but that's apparently an alias and the cert is for the spelled out name, or the reverse. I approved it now, and would have to dump the browser to get the warning again. Anyroad, that's not the domain I end up on.

ah, I see

This may have to do with https-everywhere, or Chrome's equivalent.

indeed, I've just replicated the issue

I guess that one falls to either Jacob, or the rtfd team

I would say catch it in the server side, myself, or kill the alias.

I think it's going to require recutting the cert with the altname

Baylink: I'd recommend you take it up with rtfd

In other news, my suse python-setuptools package includes easy_install, but not pip; off to find out why.

Noted.

thanks mattmcc I found what I wanted :)

Baylink: your what package?

suse labels it "python-setuptools", in their repo

contains easy_install and all it's backup code.

install virtualenv, see if that helps

But it doesn't appear to contain pip. Ok, lessee here.

That doesn't appear to be packaged at all.

Nope, nothing appears to provide pip or virtualenv. <sigh> I love growing grass to get a hamburger.

I'll get it; my VPS provider needs to get a little more up to date than 11.3.

you got a VPS, and you picked SuSE?

I've been a suse guy for 9 years, yes.

The only other RPM based distros they presently have are C5 and 6 and F12; to date, I haven't cared.